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Hog Islander... And a Request...
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Author:  Shurik [ August 30th, 2011, 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Hog Islander... And a Request...
Aloha! First attempt at a boat here. Not knowing much about naval equipment, I figured: "Why not start off with a Civilian Model? That'll be easier..."
...
Yea. Right. :(


Anywho, here we go. After searching the forum and finding nothing about "Hog Islander", "1022", etc, I figured to have a go at this classic ship.
Basic outline is all I have thus far.

And the request:
I'm running into a bit of an issue with tracking down detailed pictures of a Hog Islander Type A to work from. I have some basic shapes from here:
http://www.shipscribe.com/mckellar/pix/1022.html

But that's about it.
Anyone here have any good resources/suggestions?

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Author:  CanisD [ August 31st, 2011, 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
http://smmlonline.com/articles/hogislan ... nders.html
Might help some.
Author:  Shurik [ August 31st, 2011, 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
CanisD wrote:
http://smmlonline.com/articles/hogislan ... nders.html
Might help some.
Thanks. I was actaully able to use the hull-lines drawing from that site to aid in the shading.

Well, this is as complete as I can get it with available pics/info. Some details had to be guistimated and I'm sure there are more to fill in, but any hints/feedback/criticisms/etc are welcome!

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Author:  Thiel [ August 31st, 2011, 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
An obvious place to start is to get the shading right.
Author:  Shurik [ August 31st, 2011, 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
Thiel wrote:
An obvious place to start is to get the shading right.
I agree: it doesn't look quite... right... :oops:

I was trying to gradate the shades, but it's a bit tough when working with ms-paint. In so doing, I'll fully admit to tracking down (and using) a couple shade-bars from other WIP's, mixing and matching, and trying to come up with a selection that works.

Any advice on how to go about getting it to look better?
Author:  acelanceloet [ August 31st, 2011, 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
Shurik wrote:

Any advice on how to go about getting it to look better?
what about using the shipbucket rules instead of experimenting with the shading? :P
Author:  Shurik [ August 31st, 2011, 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
acelanceloet wrote:
what about using the shipbucket rules instead of experimenting with the shading? :P
Yup, read through that.
What about providing a proper example of colors, or something more useful than a meaningless list of numbers and letter? :|
The vessels over in the posted drawings area sport a VAST array of variations in colors, shading, etc.

- Second basic line color (dark grey): #7D7D7D or RGB 125,125,125
- "Black" areas on the hull or on outwardly-sloping surfaces: #292929 or RGB 41,41,41
- "Black" areas on the superstructure or on inward-sloping surfaces: #3D3D3D or RGB 61,61,61
- Railing: #AEAEAE or RGB 174, 174, 174
- Windows: #1873FF or RGB 24,115,255
- Propeller Yellow: #FFFF00 or RGB 255,255,0
- Hull Red: #FF0000 or RGB 255,0,0
- Hull Shading Color: #A04000 or RGB 160,64,0 :?:

What exactly is "A04000 or RGB 160,64,0"? I'm guessing the second number is coordinates of some sort, but even if so, that only provides a single color, not a range necessary for shading.

Unless I'm really missing something?
Author:  acelanceloet [ August 31st, 2011, 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
you don't need a range to shade following shipbucket style.
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this is how you should shade. if you want advanced shading, use this: http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... jostus.png
the hull is normally not shaded.
Author:  Novice [ September 1st, 2011, 6:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
R41 G41 B41 means Red 41 Green 41 andd Blue 41 in MS-Paint. You go into the color tool and customize the colors .That is all.
Author:  Shurik [ September 1st, 2011, 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hog Islander... And a Request...
acelanceloet wrote:
you don't need a range to shade following shipbucket style.
this is how you should shade. if you want advanced shading, use this: http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc31 ... jostus.png
the hull is normally not shaded.
Ah ha. "...normally..." being the key there.
Right: That simplifies things significantly. As to the overhang shading, I think I've got it.
acelanceloet wrote:
R41 G41 B41 means Red 41 Green 41 andd Blue 41 in MS-Paint. You go into the color tool and customize the colors .That is all.
Now THAT is helpful! Thank you! :)

Ok, the imput is very helpful, please keep it coming! I'm going to eventually get this thing figured out...
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