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Author:  Karle94 [ July 16th, 2011, 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  USS Montana BB-67
This is my first ship so go easy on me. This is the successor to the Iowa, the Montana class. Armed with twelve 16 inch guns and armor to withstand the super heavy shell. Weighting 70,000 tons at full load she would have been a potent enemy, even for the Yamato.

The Battle of Midway and the dominance of air power would prevent the Montanas to be built.

Please state things that should be improved and/or changed.

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Author:  ReiAyanami [ July 16th, 2011, 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Karle94 wellcome on board! Your ship looks very good, but there is something wrong with the picture, it looks scaled down, like a preview. Maybe it is something to do with photobucket, but I don't know, I use imageshack
Author:  TimothyC [ July 16th, 2011, 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67[*]
A few pointers
  1. Change your photobucket settings to max out at one meg rather than 1024 pixels, it will remove the resizing issue.
  2. All guns are shown at zero elevation and zero train fore and aft (unless not physically capable of being in said position).
  3. You have several wrong parts on there, most notably the 5"/54 Mk-16s
Once you fix the above, we can take another look and see what needs to be done - I caution you though, a version of Montana has been drawn (although I don't think uploaded).
Author:  Karle94 [ July 16th, 2011, 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Why are the 5"/54`s wrong parts? They were made for the Montana.
Author:  TimothyC [ July 16th, 2011, 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Karle94 wrote:
Why are the 5"/54`s wrong parts? They were made for the Montana.
I apologize for the misunderstanding. What you have there appear to be the 5"/38 Mk-12 gun in either the Mk-28, 29, or Mk-32 mounts. What you want is the 5"/54 Mk-16 gun in the Mk-41 twin mount. As far as I know the Mk-41 twin mount has never been drawn as it was never deployed. The Mk-39 single gun mount has been drawn, and might work as a source for your part.
Author:  Karle94 [ July 16th, 2011, 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Actuallt it isn`the 5"/38, it is the 5"/54 mark 16. I have used a very good and high res picture of the Montana as a referance.

I have corected the barrels. They are now at 0 elevation.
Author:  TimothyC [ July 16th, 2011, 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Karle94 wrote:
Actuallt it isn`the 5"/38, it is the 5"/54 mark 16. I have used a very good and high res picture of the Montana as a referance.
Wonderful*. I'd like to see said references at some point.
Quote:
I have corected the barrels. They are now at 0 elevation.
Any chance we could see an updated and properly uploaded image?

*This is NOT sarcasm.
Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Hmmm,
Apparently your drawing have a wrong AA weapons suit (only few quadruple bofors, few Oerlikons)
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(The view above is not very realistic because it shows the ship by 1945, but the Americans never could finish these ships in 1945, but more likely around 1947+/1949...)

You must choose between only two REALISTIC possibilities for the AA Weapons suit:

Montana Class AS DESIGNED BY 1942:
- with only 8 quadruple 40mm bofors and 20 oerlikons (single).

Montana Class AS COMMISSIONED (LIKELY around 1947+/1949): maybe the better & most realistic
- In this case you will delete all quadruple 40mm Bofors and you replace them with twin 76mm (likely a grand total of 21 to 23 heavy mounts)
- You do not let a tiny handful of twin 20mm guns.
- You need to improve radars and directors...(early postwar models)
Author:  Karle94 [ July 16th, 2011, 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
This is my reference picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rawing.jpg
Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Karle94 wrote:
This is my reference picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rawing.jpg
Hmmm,
Still +/- usefull for the "main lines"
But not very usefull for AA suit & details :?
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