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Ok the real war winner my subs (with magnetic torpedoes that work ).

-35 class is my general long range boat.
-36 class is just a ASW test training boat .

Not sure I want to build to many pre war (as others might get an idea)



deck guns are just bolted on

JSB

I like the 1935 class, looks quite sleek. The 1936 reminds me of the R Class of the First World War, a design ahead of its time. I'm not sure if the rudder surfaces are large enough, the eight tubes seem very crammed in, I dobut there is room for the bottom two tubes. But aside from that, this looks an interesting design exercise.

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Yes the 36 is a new R class, (hidden as a ASW training boat)
- designed to patrol north sea and from Malta short range v high threat areas.
- 8 (needs big salvo as it will be shooting at fast warships) none reloadable tubes boat inclines itself back at base to load them by flooding rear tanks (take up less space + much less length and less crew)
- hull for underwater speed
- deck gun /railings will come off very quickly .
- prototype for welding to save weight to increase diving depth.

The 35 is the 'normal' boat.
- long range boat optimised for the far east.

JSB

How would the empire build more CLs post 37 ?

Well what about Canadians paying for a few ? Say 2 or 3 towns or colony's would make sense wouldn't it, so finally (after much persuasion) the Canadian government says yes but then the GB dockyards are running full so cant build them so they try and make them themselves but cant due to not making guns etc, so they go south of the border and get different ones .

WIP need to decide on what AA guns to fit.....
40mm Bofors - imported singles, not RN standard but good ?
40mm Pom pom - quads, shortages but RN standard,
1.1 US - does it work ?
20mm Oerlikon - to early for it ?
.5 US - not very good (will almost certainly use some of these as they are available)
.5GB - not very good


4x3 6inch US
6x1 5/38 US
2x4 1.1 US
6x1 .5 US

What should I call here ? (thinking after provinces ? Quebec, Ontario + 1 more ? )
any feedback welcome
JSB

An interesting concept.
As for names I would, add beside Quebec and Ontario, maybe Nova Scotia, Newfoundland & New Brunswick.

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Interesting but slightly heretical

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Nothing wrong with your idea, only drawback I can see if you use them in European theaters. how available ammunition would be for the US guns.

On the armament, there is a photo in Navweaps of a Canadian firm building 2pdr quads. While not the best gun, they were better than the 1.1".

Always admired the Edinburgh class cruisers, having the US guns on them has not detracted from their lines.

Well done JSB.

I think they would be good useful ships,

Don't think Ammo matters they can spend the start of the war in the Atlantic hunting German raiders (and they are better than the small actually used Cls v a German CA).

Yes if Pom Poms are available (pre war?) then they would be better than 1.1s

Yes a comparison of US/UK guns (from Navweps),
AP Mark 35 Mods 1 to 11 (super heavy) - 130 lbs. (59.0 kg)/CPBC - 112 lbs. (50.8 kg)
26,000 yards (23,770 m)/25,480 yards (23,300 m)
154 to 167 tons /Edinburgh Mark XXIII: 182 tons
8 - 10 rounds per minute/6 - 8 rounds per minute
Looks like the US guns will be lighter and maybe better (the 6 was one of there best)
JSB

A very interesting concept. I think it works quite well and looks good.
As you say, the American turrets are lighter and the Mk 37 is superior to the HACS. I think the pom-poms would go nicely on this.

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keep in mind though, that the british turrets were heavier for a reason. for example, the british required more shock hardening, flash zones, atomic/chemical protection, improved habitability, spraying arrangements and mechanical hopper loading in the magazine for usage of the bofors 120mm M50 on the super daring. this was all done for a ship of destroyer standards, postwar, so how it was for a cruiser prewar I cannot be certain, but in general I think we could say the american turrets would become somewhat heavier too when used by the RN.

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