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Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
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A slightly other version of Montana (small difference in AA weapons suit & superstructure)
But a very interesting comparaison with Iowa/Missouri BB class (the Montana was virtualy a enlarged version of the Iowa's)

But this drawing appear to be a mistake in term of scall, this Montana was too bigger vs a Iowa :?
Author:  acelanceloet [ July 16th, 2011, 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
what I am always wondering about.... why was the 'bridge around conning tower' of the Iowa's abandoned on the Montana?
Author:  Karle94 [ July 16th, 2011, 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
So it has come to this: This is the Montana at the time when she was cancelled, around 1942-1943.
She does have 8 quad Bofors 40 mm and many 20 mm guns.

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Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
acelanceloet wrote:
what I am always wondering about.... why was the 'bridge around conning tower' of the Iowa's abandoned on the Montana?
Better protection for Officer and Crews in event of a large/HEAVY GUN BATTLE again future very large German or Japanese Battleships.
Crews was forced to "move" into the heavily armored coning tower for a better protection.

A 15/16" or a 18" shell can very easily "blow-up" almost the entire (unprotected/unarmored) bridge in event of a full direct hit....
Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Karle94 wrote:
So it has come to this: This is the Montana at the time when she was cancelled, around 1942-1943.
She does have 8 quad Bofors 40 mm and many 20 mm guns.
Hmmm, look WRONG

Remenber your the Shipbucket Guideline
4.2 Lines
Shipbucket drawings are made of different lines which make the silhouette of a ship. All lines should be one (1) pixel thick regardless of color. Remember the One Pixel Corners rule:
Author:  Bombhead [ July 16th, 2011, 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Its a good start.You might be better re-doing the super structure using Columbamike's reference drawing.I know it's a pain in the arse but it will provide a better finished article.Try to eleminate the double thickness black lines.A brave 1ST attempt.
Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
To Help you Karl94

A +/- "decent***" :? version of Montana, already draw by 2 others "Shipbucket" artists...
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*** decent but with severals errors of details...(maybe for AU use ?)
Author:  erik_t [ July 16th, 2011, 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Colombamike wrote:
acelanceloet wrote:
what I am always wondering about.... why was the 'bridge around conning tower' of the Iowa's abandoned on the Montana?
Better protection for Officer and Crews in event of a large/HEAVY GUN BATTLE again future very large German or Japanese Battleships.
Crews was forced to "move" into the heavily armored coning tower for a better protection.

A 15/16" or a 18" shell can very easily "blow-up" almost the entire (unprotected/unarmored) bridge in event of a full direct hit....
Seems more likely to me that Montana would have received such a bridge in service, just as the Iowas did. As designed and commissioned, the Iowas had exactly the style of open bridge wrapped around the conning tower that we see in these drawings.
Author:  Colombamike [ July 16th, 2011, 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
erik_t wrote:
Seems more likely to me that Montana would have received such a bridge in service, just as the Iowas did. As designed and commissioned, the Iowas had exactly the style of open bridge wrapped around the conning tower that we see in these drawings.
USS IOWA as a extended conning tower (for command-ship role), to balance its topweight, she never fitted with a quadruple Bofors gun on N° 02 turret (Turret B)...

Same for USS South-Dakota...
Author:  Karle94 [ July 17th, 2011, 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Montana BB-67
Here is the 1947 Montana. I added extra quad 40 mm and changed all the single 20 mm to twin. I decided to remove eight quad 40 mm turrets and replace them with 3 inch AA guns. The ship also has new radars that I found on the Worcester class CL. I also removed the Kingfisher and replaced it with the Seahawk.

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