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| Author: | Graham1973 [ April 16th, 2016, 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
The four images below were located on a spare harddrive, I believe they originated on the old Warship Projects 3.0 board and are calculations (In Italian) on notepaper from a German hotel for a three funnel, 8x15inch gun battleship. I have no further information beyond what is contained in the images, but thought it worthwhile making it available to the wider community. Hopefully someone can bring these pages to life. ![[ img ]](http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Bloodwyche/media/Shipbucket/disegnocorazzata0001cop_zpst5kcdisc.jpg.html) ![[ img ]](http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Bloodwyche/media/Shipbucket/disegnocorazzata0002copp_zpsw4mlqzo1.jpg.html) ![[ img ]](http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Bloodwyche/media/Shipbucket/disegnocorazzata0003cop_zpsu9vvwndm.jpg.html) ![[ img ]](http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Bloodwyche/media/Shipbucket/disegnocorazzata0004cop_zpscpdfv5ph.jpg.html)
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| Author: | Graham1973 [ April 17th, 2016, 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
Did a quick look at a couple of those pages (The one which seems to have the basic stats and the one showing the layout of the boilers/turbines.) This is what I could get out of them. Weight: 28,000 tons Engine power: 50,000 - 60,000shp Speed: 25 knots(?) Main Armament: 8 x 15 in guns (Twin Turrets) Secondary Armament: 16 x 6 in guns (Single mount casemates) Tertiary Armament: 16 x 3 in guns (Single mount (?)) Engine details: Three turbines driving four shafts. Looks as if the designer had not decided just how many boilers the ship was going to use. The other thing is that if I am interpreting the diagram showing the ships layout/side armour correctly then this ship has cage masts which I though was a US affectation only, any ideas? This is all pretty preliminary if someone out there can read Italian, it could be very helpful in getting full use out of these images. |
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| Author: | Lazer_one [ April 18th, 2016, 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
It is a drawing made by Luigi Orlando (the founder of Cantieri Orlando) and, probably, is the preliminary sketch of Caracciolo-class battleship. |
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| Author: | Graham1973 [ April 18th, 2016, 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
Thanks for that identification. I had a quick look at the details on Wikipedia and there do seem to be some differences between what is in the sketches and the article, most notably in the power plant layout and the armament. Also as I've noted, the sketch depicts US style cage masts, the Wikipedia sketch shows pole masts. Could this be a rival proposal or were the builders thinking of selling to the 'ABC' powers in South America. |
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| Author: | Keisser [ May 28th, 2016, 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
Wow! That's an interesting project, I'll try to make my own ship based on it. |
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| Author: | Graham1973 [ May 29th, 2016, 4:50 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI | |
Wow! That's an interesting project, I'll try to make my own ship based on it.
Thanks, looking forward to seeing the results.
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| Author: | Rhade [ May 29th, 2016, 2:11 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI | |
It is a drawing made by Luigi Orlando (the founder of Cantieri Orlando) and, probably, is the preliminary sketch of Caracciolo-class battleship.
The same that main battery's did serve as coastal defense in WWII?
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| Author: | Keisser [ June 9th, 2016, 2:20 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI | |
Thanks, looking forward to seeing the results.
I did it.
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| Author: | Krakatoa [ June 9th, 2016, 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI |
Keisser - No you have not drawn that ship! That drawing being a pre-design sketch of the Italian 15" dreadnoughts qualifies as a 'never-were' drawing and could be uploaded to the main archive as such. What you have drawn is just an impression of what YOU think the drawing looks like and holds no real resemblance to the original sketch, which for a start has 3 funnels. The original drawing here would date from 1912 to 1914 and relies on the twin 15" from the Italian Vickers works. |
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| Author: | Keisser [ June 10th, 2016, 5:02 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Mystery Italian(?) Battleship - Pre WWI | |
Keisser - No you have not drawn that ship!
I did not tend to make a Italian "never-were" battleship. I said that my next work will be based on this blueprint - I did it. It was misunerstanding. I am sorry if I brought you difficulties with my AU-ship-based-on-this-post.
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