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Author:  heuhen [ March 4th, 2014, 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  some Norwegian Navy sailing ship etc.
was just looking around when I found these:

"Norske Løve" 1735 (Denmark-Norway)
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The constructor of the ship had studied in various country's. And loved the french style.

Displacement (2 352,5 ton)
length 51,5 m (164 feet)
beam 14,0 m (44,5 feet)
depth stern: 6,3 m (20 feet) bow: 5,7 m

Armament: 70 guns:
lower deck:
26 24-pounds guns
Upper deck:
26 18-pounds guns
main deck, stern, bow: 18 8-pounds guns
crew 542 men

"Najaden" 1811 (Denmark-Norway)
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Length: 37,5m
beam: 9,18m
depth: 3,9m
build with 36 guns later 42 guns.


"Kong Sverre" 1864-1932 (Norway)
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Sverre.jpg

During the building and at the time she was launched, she was regarded as the best armed sail ship ever build, and her heavy wood hull was constructed in such way that she could survive bigger ships. she was described as the ship of terror, a ship that was build to go up against bigger opponents and win the fight.

But 2 year later when she was handed over to the Navy, she was already outdated. new type of armor (steal) was come, and the grenade had also come. and the same year the commando was taken, a year later it was removed from active list, for newer sail again.

building material: oak
Displacement: 3475 tons
Length: 77,2m
beam: 15,5m
depth: 6,8m

power plant: 1 steam engine, 1 shaft, 1800 hp
speed: 11,5 knots on engines
armarment:
2x6,5" ribbed guns
16x5" ribbed guns
22x6,5" smothbore guns (broadside)
crew 600 men

drawing of a ship build in the same period as "Kong Sverre" at the same shipyard:

"St. Olaf 1856-1925 (Norway)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rawing.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... rigate.png

Displacemnt: 2182 tons
length: 70,8 meter
beam 12,8 meter
depth: 5,7 meter

power-plant 1200hp
speed: 10,5 knots on steam
armarment:
1x5" ribbed gun
1x6.5"ribbed gun as stern gun
20x6,5" smothbore gun (broadside)
12x5" ribbed gun (Broadside)



a cool situation picture/model from Horten Naval base (I presume)

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/12 ... x1024.jpeg

all back: "Kong Sverre"towed by an tug and behind it CDS Tordenskjold
in front of CDS Tordenskjold is CL Viking or one of the sister ships.
in front of CL Viking, a sail ship, unknown for me, but it might still be around that one!
in front of that again, 4 torpedo boats of Lyn class
and to the left of them: one of the commando ship, or an older "CL"


That's for now, I think I have more:

Oh for those Danish-Norwegian ships_ some of our Danish friends might perhaps have something on them, on Danish web-sides. my computer lows to search in either Norwegian or English!
Author:  CraigH [ March 5th, 2014, 1:08 am ]
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Start drawing heuhen! Come on over to the dark side of sail. :twisted:

CraigH
Author:  heuhen [ March 5th, 2014, 5:18 am ]
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noooooo..
Author:  Rodondo [ March 5th, 2014, 6:41 am ]
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We have imaginary cookies Heuhen, jooinnnnnn ussssss.....
Author:  heuhen [ March 5th, 2014, 8:50 am ]
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I shouldn't...... Im already to fat!
Author:  bezobrazov [ March 6th, 2014, 2:29 pm ]
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Actually, Henrik, that's not the Norske Løve of 1735, rather it is a reconstruction (based on Willem van de Velde the Elder's guache drawing from ca. 1656) of the first ship with that name from 1634. In 1653 she was extensively rebuilt and her armament increased from 40 guns to 48-51. She participated in many battles against the Swedes until broken up in 1666. The second one was a substantially larger vessel of 78-86 guns, launched the following year. Since I've already drawn the Christianus Quintus (1665, 86 guns), her half-sister, and am planning to 'bucketize her, I'm also going to draw that ship.
Author:  heuhen [ March 6th, 2014, 3:31 pm ]
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are you absolutely certain on that. if you are the Norwegian Digital-museum is wrong.

Digital -museum is an government owned web based museum. What they do is visit every single museum in Norway and take pictures of every thing they have, and digitizing documents. But the min thing for them is to show pictures and documents on things that was never shown to public.


Digital-museum had that ship listed as "den Norske Løve" 1735

but there have been several other ships with the same name (one was based on french design, other...? that's all I know):
http://media35a.dimu.no/media/decoimage ... 5?size=800
but this one is also marked as 1735!!


But it all might come down to some error in marking of picture from the museum side. for when we think of it, they have millions of pictures out there...
Author:  bezobrazov [ March 6th, 2014, 4:09 pm ]
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They are dead-panned wrong, my friend! (I found a wrong date in a Danish exhibition about the Battle of Fehmarn (Oct. 13, 1644), at one time, which stated it was fought in, I believe it said February!
Still to this date, my wife is afraid to go with me to Copenhagen, lest I go back to that museum and have them correct the date! (She sternly forbade me that one time...) 8-) 8-) ;) ;) :D

But, yes, I'm 100% positive. Just check your other references for Danish shipbuilding during the period of King Christian IV!
And, yes, there's been some 11 (!) ships with that name! :shock:
Author:  KimWerner [ March 6th, 2014, 4:55 pm ]
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Sorry :oops: :? :shock: I think I may have double clicked on the submit button :!: Now I've edited one of the doublepost with this text :?
Author:  KimWerner [ March 6th, 2014, 4:58 pm ]
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There have been eleven (11) vessels named "Norske Løve" in the danish navy (which was Danish-Norwegian until 1814). The first "Norske Løve" was built at the naval dockyard at Engelsborg at Slotø (Castle Island) in Nakskov Fjord. She was build according David Balfours drawings by the scotsman Daniel Sinclair, who was shipbuilder for King Christian IV. "Norske Løve" was build from 1631 to 1634, and send in service 1635.
"Norske Løve" was active the next twelve year and participated in several seebattles. Amongst them the Battle in Listerdyb May 16th 1644, the seebattle at Kolberger Heide Juli 1st 1644 and in the blockade of Goetenborg in 1645. She was laid up in 1653, but there are some conflicting informations which confuse it with another "Norske Løve", who was launched in Lübeck in 1654. This one had the same size, crew and armament. Some history claims that "Norske Løve" from Slotø should have continued in service until 1666, where she went down in a storm south of Stavanger (Norway).
But the same fate happened to "Norske Løve" from Lübeck. In the same storm!
Another "Norske Løve" is from 1764. The keel was laid dowm at Orlogsværftet (the Naval Dockyard) in Copenhagen in 1764 Capitaine and Fabriquemester Frederik Michael Krabbe and probably completed in 1766. 70 canons and a crew at 465 men.

Here is a model (it's a nave in a church on the Danish island Fanø) of the first mentioned "Norske Løve"
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Here is a picture of a "Norske Løve" not mentioned in text above. Servicetime 1735-1764
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Here is the third mentioned "Norske Løve"
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