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Author:  Carthaginian [ September 12th, 2011, 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
I've recently begun work on an AU (with some help and advice from a senior SB member) focusing on the late 1870's and early 1880's and which will be progressing along at a rather slow pace reaching the late 40's before it ends. It centers around an independent French Canada taking up most of the current provinces of Labrador, Newfoundland, Quebec and Ontario.

For the earliest ships, I need some good reference drawings on broadside mounts for early breech loading guns and for early torpedo carriages. If anyone has any access to such drawings/photos, I would be greatly appreciative.
Author:  Thiel [ September 12th, 2011, 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
There really weren't much to early torpedo launchers. They looked pretty much like their later cousins-
Here's an example of a typical above water tube
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Of course there were also a number of interesting methods, mostly used on small craft like this side dropping arrangement.
[ img ]
Author:  Carthaginian [ September 12th, 2011, 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
I was looking for the very early methods of dropping the torpedoes, much more like the illustration in your post as opposed to the above water tube on the Norwegian (IIRC) torpedo boat. I'm looking for the earliest fixed torpedo launchers that anyone can find info for.

Thanks for that diagram, BTW- that mechanism will show up on some of my small fry!
Author:  Thiel [ September 12th, 2011, 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
The earliest launch mechanism would be submerged tubes.
Author:  bezobrazov [ September 12th, 2011, 11:38 pm ]
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Is my drawing of a Thornycroft 2nd Cl. Torpedo boat useful? Here's the link:

http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... 882-89.png
Author:  Thiel [ September 12th, 2011, 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
A prime example of the side dropper.
Also, this is how the torpedoes themselves looked in 1875.
[ img ]
As far as I'm aware it's an unmodified Whitehead/Fiume torpedo
Author:  Carthaginian [ September 13th, 2011, 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
bezobrazov,
Indeed, it is VERY useful! I'm hoping that some of my research for this leads me to find some drawings of early French torpedo boats, so I can do them while I'm at it.

Thiel,
Thanks for another useful drawing. I've found a couple of sites that show good measurements on the early torps (in their various lengths and diameters), but good illustrations are kind of hard to come by.
Author:  Thiel [ September 13th, 2011, 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
It was the first torpedo in RDN service.
Author:  bezobrazov [ September 13th, 2011, 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
You're welcome, friend! As you may have noticed the drop carriage torpedoes are of the same shape as the Whitehead type, supplied by Thiel.
Author:  Rodondo [ September 13th, 2011, 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broadside Gun Mounts & Torpedo Carriages
I did something similar to bezobrazov's, the torpedoes are slightly smaller though, these torpedoes where marginally smaller in Real life I believe

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z41 ... sioner.png

also these had really small torpedoes

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z41 ... Nepean.png
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