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Has anybody got good source drawings of the Iroquois class destroyers?

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Probably posting from and iPhone and naval terms befuddle it. If I say a ships' hill, you know what I meant.

already draw...

That version is outdated, which is why I want to fix it.

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Probably posting from and iPhone and naval terms befuddle it. If I say a ships' hill, you know what I meant.

Well, Bezobrazov has clearly worked over MConrads original and it is what we have now: a fine addition to an existing drawing, hence the legend now reflecting both artists. From looking at it I can't quite see why you want to improve it further? That said, you are quite free to do your own thing, if you are not seeking to replace this one on the archive

Well only radar and weapon stuff is outdated..

the only thing I would like to see was an addition of the newest parts,
(phalanx, oto 76, DA-08, LW-08, STIR 180 and SM), and maybe an new prop, other then that, this drawing is still rather good and if some ships should be entirely redrawn, IMO, this one is not one of them.

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Also,Bezobrazov has already updated this drawing from MConrads; and that was ok because MConrads is no longer contributing drawings, and his signature is still shown (as it should be). If anything we should be leaving this for Bezobrazov to change himself when he considers it. I don't personally think its a good idea for us to be changing another artists work for minor improvements; and there is, as I constantly remind folk, a lot of ships never drawn, and much older drawings on the archive that could be better improved.

Fully agree

Gentlemen, since it appears to be something of a unanimous opinion here, I shall venture ahead and look it over really thoroughly, in the meanwhile paying greatest heed to the spirit and conventions of MConrad. I do agree that basically the drawing is fine as it is. What it needs is a proper underwater hull (already drawn that.) and a new set of radars, and change of some of the weaponry. I know it'll require some other minor tweaks too, but, like I mentioned; basically it's fine. - One thing, having said this (on my way to work..) is that the overal dimensions should, as always, be re-checked.

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My Avatar:Петр Алексеевич Безобразов (Petr Alekseevich Bezobrazov), Вице-адмирал , царская ВМФ России(1845-1906) - I sign my drawings as Ari Saarinen