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Author:  erik_t [ January 1st, 2019, 1:32 am ]
Post subject:  CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
Hey all,

A few minor revisions to the challenge submission, mostly driven by Okieboat renderings. Not much to say, and I'm about off to NYE festivities, but I'd be happy to explain/discuss any detail changes if folks are interested.

Changes primarily to:
  • ESM atop the mainmast is rearranged (it looks cramped in the side view, but I mocked it up and it all fits)
  • Mast bracing is more logical
  • Moved TACAN
  • 26' boat handling modified
  • Comms modified
  • Firefighting equipment modified
  • Ventilation improved
  • Forward Mk 10 is now the correct angled-load version, and the aft one is the correct horizontal-load version
  • Blast shielding of the aft Mk 13s is much more extensive
  • Faraday-caged lookout stations added
  • Liferaft disposition improved
  • Slightly adjusted the midships superstructure based on Long Beach core refueling study
  • Masker added
  • GMFCS domes are resized based on Sea Phoenix study
  • EDIT: New SPS-10
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(old version)

Happy new year!
Author:  Shigure [ January 1st, 2019, 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
Pretty damn sexy.
Author:  Hood [ January 1st, 2019, 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
I think it looks even better than before, looks like 99% perfection to me.
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 1st, 2019, 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
Sorry Erik, still needs the new SPS-10

http://shipbucket.com/wiki/index.php/AN/SPS-10

And a doomcone :D

Also still wondering what Ace's flush-deck Long Beach derivative would have looked like. His preview was actually quite graceful, with only the launchers and the preliminary tower structure in place.
Author:  erik_t [ January 1st, 2019, 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
LOL, "final" is never final. I like the new SPS-10! What do you mean, "doomcone"?

I'd also like to see the flush-deck derivative, but I'm a little skeptical it would have made it through detailed design. Warships had become volume-critical by that era but naval architects hadn't totally internalized that knowledge. You've got bulky missiles and temperamental electronics which require specialists (i.e., not just draftees) to maintain them -- where are you going to put everything?
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 1st, 2019, 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
erik_t wrote: *January 1st, 2019, 3:38 pm
LOL, "final" is never final. I like the new SPS-10!
Thanks.

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What do you mean, "doomcone"?
The 8"/55 caliber Mark 71, on the discord server it's nickname is The Doomcone.
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I'd also like to see the flush-deck derivative, but I'm a little skeptical it would have made it through detailed design. Warships had become volume-critical by that era but naval architects hadn't totally internalized that knowledge. You've got bulky missiles and temperamental electronics which require specialists (i.e., not just draftees) to maintain them -- where are you going to put everything?
True, but that's what we have two whole forum sections for :D
Author:  erik_t [ January 1st, 2019, 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
Oh, ha. Well, it's definitely a little early for 8"/55 (and I see no reason she would have been built with a sufficiently strong foundation, but you can always refit stuff with money and tonnage).

Updated with the new SPS-10.
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 1st, 2019, 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
erik_t wrote: *January 1st, 2019, 9:10 pm
Oh, ha. Well, it's definitely a little early for 8"/55 (and I see no reason she would have been built with a sufficiently strong foundation, but you can always refit stuff with money and tonnage).

Updated with the new SPS-10.
Err... I'd use the B version, by the time TyBeach launches the entire fleet should have been updated to that standard.

And no, she's a bit early for the Doomcone. If anything, in order to save weight, I'd see her going to the 5"/54 Mk 45
Author:  erik_t [ January 1st, 2019, 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
I don't totally understand what's going on with the additional details on the SPS-10B drawing. I went with what looks like the real (or "real") thing:

https://www.okieboat.com/CAD%20radars.html
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 1st, 2019, 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CGN-36 'TyBeach' - final version
erik_t wrote: *January 1st, 2019, 10:27 pm
I don't totally understand what's going on with the additional details on the SPS-10B drawing. I went with what looks like the real (or "real") thing:

https://www.okieboat.com/CAD%20radars.html
That's the A version. The B version has a modified reflector: A triangular section was added to the underside, and the feed horn was modified (invisible at our scale) to reduce sidelobes and radar interference between similar sets working close together.


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