OK this isn't very likely but please forgive me, a reasonable procurement of 100m River IIs....
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| Author: | JSB [ January 21st, 2017, 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 100m River IIs |
OK this isn't very likely but please forgive me, a reasonable procurement of 100m River IIs....
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| Author: | waterwings [ January 21st, 2017, 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
or the dubious BAE equivalent: ![[ img ]](https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ze5co4vhgtz77t/Avenger%20Template%20V1.png?dl=1) ![[ img ]](https://www.dropbox.com/s/31lp9ycbkv880h4/p1630751.jpg?dl=1)
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| Author: | JSB [ January 21st, 2017, 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
I thought I was bad at cutting and pasting stuff to pretend its new, but it looks like BAe is also at it  I like it Waterwings, dose anybody else want to design something River BII - T31 ish? (or ripe mine to pieces) |
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| Author: | heuhen [ January 21st, 2017, 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
the gun isn't it a British 4.5" inn a different structure.... since it's a UK-ship, why an American and old 5" gun... do the Brits use them? |
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ January 21st, 2017, 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
Because we're finally getting rid of the 4.5" gun? Type 26 has transitioned to the Mk.45 after all. |
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| Author: | heuhen [ January 21st, 2017, 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
interesting. it looks like the have taken the 5"/54 Mark 45 and merged it with a new version of the cupola from the 5"/62 Mark 45 |
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| Author: | JSB [ January 21st, 2017, 8:29 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs | |
interesting.
You would have thought the RN would just adopt the USN gun and mount but I would be very surprised if they don't just improve a few things that are sufficient to make it separate and therefore cost massively more down the road...
it looks like the have taken the 5"/54 Mark 45 and merged it with a new version of the cupola from the 5"/62 Mark 45 |
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| Author: | Hood [ January 22nd, 2017, 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
Anytime I see or hear the Type 31 GPF I start nashing my teeth! The drawing is good, but the concept is poor and even the RN doesn't know what it wants. The Treasury wants something cheap but a warmed up OPV is still just an OPV, not a frigate. I feel an AW159 Wildcat would be more likely than a Merlin, though I guess the Navy would hope the Merlin could provide all the ship's ASW capability as an autonomous system. Note sure if we have an SB scale Wildcat though... |
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| Author: | JSB [ January 22nd, 2017, 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
I was going for the full OPV than a T31, its definitely not a frigate with only a single 30mm but at least its more useful for long range OPV work and should not cost much more if any than the OTL River BIIs. I wanted to show Merlin capability but agree it would be a wildcat that fitted better. (don't start with why such a small navy need 2 types of helicopter?) |
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| Author: | JSB [ January 23rd, 2017, 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 100m River IIs |
![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ed25vswzspbqth5/100m%20River%20III.png?dl=0) A more unarmed River trying its best to be a grown up frigate (OK might actually sell as a corvette?). Can I ask Waterwings and any others what radar/sonar should I fit, what is that Avenger using? |
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