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Author: | TimothyC [ June 7th, 2015, 5:40 am ] |
Post subject: | SS United States 2010 Refit |
A joint M.I. Reilly-Collette / Timothy Cizadlo project. SS United States is today the last of the American ocean liners¹, and, as such, is a common target for what-ifs. Here, Mrs. Reilly-Collette and I would like to present one possible outcome for this magnificent lady. Refit details: Updated boilers and reconditioned turbines would allow for a power output of 300k shp (the ship’s original power plant was limited to 260k shp). Three or four of her boilers have been replaced with prototype Fuel-Cell boilers. These boilers are similar in structure to a typical firetube unit, but with the insides of the firetubes replaced with a linear stack of solid oxide fuel cells. The working temperature of these fuel cells can reach 1100°C, and while the electricity is used to power the shipboard electrical systems (relegating the diesel generator sets for use in emergencies or when shore power is not available) the waste heat will be used to drive the screws. When this is matched with a new bow, featuring an underwater bulb, the sustained speed of the ship is increased to 36-37 knots. This new bow replaces the existing structure ahead of the forward collision bulkhead and essentially adds a second collision bulkhead forward, allowing the existing crew quarters near the bow to still be used, even with improvements to safety regulations that have occurred over the prior 60 years. The additional speed provided by the more powerful engines and new bow allow the ship to make her scheduled transit run from San Francisco Bay to Honolulu Harbor in about 60 hours. The quickness of the transit, combined with rapid turn-around times at each end provided for weekly service to the islands. Even with the higher speed, the improved efficiency of the new boilers would result in a ship that could make the entire round trip on a single load of fuel, while offloading 5,500 short tons in Honolulu, further reducing the subsidy needed to operate the ship. This service provided is not limited to conventional passenger travel and the forward and aft holds of the ship have been refurbished with an automated car lift similar to those found in Japanese car parks. The system allows for a 42 second maximum cycle time providing for rapid loading and unloading of the 483 standard automobiles, 183 motorcycles, 200 bicycles, and 50 kayaks that can be embarked. In the event that the ship is called into military service the lifts, each capable of moving 28 short tons, can be used to move Stryker combat vehicles to and from the cargo holds. This capacity is limited however by the relatively high location of the RO-RO doors on the ship, and a design that was not intended for vertical haul-away. If the ship were to be called into military or disaster relief service, the roofs of the cargo areas can be used as helicopter landing areas, providing a total of four spots. While the most notable feature on the pre-refit ship were the massive funnels, here their profile is reduced by the raised f’o’csle, the additional decks added to the main super structure, and the massive new block added aft. It is these superstructure additions that add 104 balcony cabins and 29 non-balcony cabins, increasing her passenger capacity from 1928 to 2347 people. To accommodate this increase in passengers (and corresponding increase in crew), a quartet of new lifeboat stations and a quartet of tenders are added aft. While they block much of the view from the aft cabins, it is these additional lifesaving craft and the inclusion of many rafts under davits that allow for the total evacuation of the ship from one side (very useful in the event that the ship takes on a significant list such as what happened to Costa Concordia). While almost the entire crew would have to evacuate via raft, the US manning requirements as laid out in the Passenger Vessel Services Act means that a level of competency not otherwise guaranteed on passenger ships can be assured here. While the safety of her passengers is of paramount importance, not to be ignored are her accommodations. Passengers embark in one of two classes
There would be 6 restaurants:
In closing I would like to extend a thank you to both Jan Scholtens, and Mrs. Reilly-Collette's wife for their help with the project. 1. While NS Savannah was designated P2-N1-MA40a, she was a prototype, and should not be considered an active liner. |
Author: | Skyder2598 [ June 7th, 2015, 9:06 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
nice work Impressive ship, would like to go on a tour with it... |
Author: | LEUT_East [ June 7th, 2015, 9:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
Grand vessel. Would love to see the ill fated Normandie with a modern update |
Author: | eswube [ June 7th, 2015, 9:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
Very interesting idea and great drawing! |
Author: | Krakatoa [ June 7th, 2015, 9:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
Great work and description, TJ. |
Author: | tsd715 [ June 7th, 2015, 1:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
Amazing work! Such a beautiful ship with those sleek lines: you can really see why they call ocean liners the greyhounds of the sea. |
Author: | heuhen [ June 7th, 2015, 2:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
I'm not sure about that you will get any effect at all from an bulbous bow on a ship of this type. Since these ships are already build so sharp and are designed to cut the wave like knife in butter. The Bulb after my understanding start to show it's effect on ships that have not as sharp hull like these old classic. I think an bulb can have an opposite effect on the ship, than intended. What I think this ship could be modified with is, totalizator fins, for the extra comfort. |
Author: | acelanceloet [ June 7th, 2015, 3:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
heuhen, hydrodynamics teaches that while sharp bows are good for waves, a round bow actually has less resistance under water. while indeed the effects of cancelling out the bow wave or lengthening the waterline are not used here, a bulb shaped like this one actually would reduce resistance. I could not make any sense from what you were saying in your post, as bulbs have nothing to do with cutting trough waves. do note also that the ship is big enough that most waves do have very little effect on the hull, which is what active stabiliser fins are used for. additional stability might actually make the ride uncomfortable. |
Author: | TimothyC [ June 7th, 2015, 3:03 pm ] | |||
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit | |||
I'm not sure about that you will get any effect at all from an bulbous bow on a ship of this type. Since these ships are already build so sharp and are designed to cut the wave like knife in butter.
The bow was designed my M.I. Reilly-Collette (who has studied such things in an academic capacity), and I'll reiterate something said before:The Bulb after my understanding start to show it's effect on ships that have not as sharp hull like these old classic. I think an bulb can have an opposite effect on the ship, than intended.
This new bow replaces the existing structure ahead of the forward collision bulkhead and essentially adds a second collision bulkhead forward, allowing the existing crew quarters near the bow to still be used, even with improvements to safety regulations that have occurred over the prior 60 years.
What I think this ship could be modified with is, totalizator fins, for the extra comfort.
No space, and they would cut speed, which is needed to maintain the weekly schedule.
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Author: | ezgo394 [ June 8th, 2015, 6:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SS United States 2010 Refit |
Very nice work and a very detailed interesting description! |
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