Can you draw me an aircraft carrier less than 190 meters armed with 4 Oto Melara 76mm compact guns, Bofors 40mm guns, Stinger or SeaCat missiles???Please!
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| Author: | PhilippineNavy [ March 11th, 2013, 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
Can you draw me an aircraft carrier less than 190 meters armed with 4 Oto Melara 76mm compact guns, Bofors 40mm guns, Stinger or SeaCat missiles???Please!
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| Author: | Radome [ March 11th, 2013, 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
Why don't you draw it yourself? |
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| Author: | Thiel [ March 11th, 2013, 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
That's a rather tall order don't you think? |
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| Author: | kerkie [ March 11th, 2013, 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
Wow, really? An aircraft carrier? 
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| Author: | klagldsf [ March 11th, 2013, 4:17 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy | |
1. What radome said:
Why don't you draw it yourself?
2. Less than 190 meters? That's smaller than Spain's Principe da Austras (if I'm getting that right, which I know I'm not) which is the smallest carrier constructed since the end of WWII. You're not going to have much of a flight deck if you also have 4 76mm turrets, especially not for a ski-jump.3. What kind of AU is this anyway? The second-rate military expenditures the Philippines are planning now are highly controversial. We may be broke but they didn't have much money to begin with. People complain about Bush or Obama but the Philippines presidential office has had an "illustrious" history of corruption worse than the Chicago-style. The Thai purchase of a carrier was controversial, and they barely have enough money to barely use it. Without fixed-wing aircraft. |
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ March 11th, 2013, 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
Scratch what I was going to say and +1 with what klagldsf said. Something with such a small footprint just isn't practicable IMO. You have to be well over the 20,000t mark to get anything even worth while studying, let alone building. |
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| Author: | eswube [ March 11th, 2013, 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
Technically speaking HTMS Chakri Naruebet is about 182m long, with displacement around 12.000 tonnes, but the air group of it (even assuming that Thais had money to operate the second-hand AV-8A's they bought for it) was very small. |
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| Author: | Rhade [ March 12th, 2013, 8:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
What about frogs Mistral class ? Not true carrier but similar to Wasp class, that can give us couple of Harriers on board. Poor man carrier in other hand. 
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| Author: | odysseus1980 [ March 12th, 2013, 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
What about a variant of Guiseppe Garibaldi?It is similar with the Thai aircraft carrier in dimensions and Italians were operated her with helicopters for the first years.They bought Harriers later,about 10 years after the launch of their aircraft carrier.The ship was ordered and built in Italy by Fincantieri and travelled to Phillipines through Suez Canal and Indian Ocean. But an aircraft carrier demands an armada to protect it,so my opinion is to use it a ASW/ASuW Platform with helicopters only and create several air force bases in your islands. An idea for the protection of an Arhipelago in a larger water area could be to have 1-2 San Giusto Class Mod or a similar ships with platform and hangar for ASW/ASuW helicopters,anoter 1-2 LPH of similar size for landing missions together with 5-6 modern LSM,3-4 OPVs (The old Hamilton Class is good start),7-8 frigates (MEKO 200 or similar),7-8 corvettes (80-90m long),30-40 missile boats and small hovercrafts for your Marines (look Griffon Hovercrafts 6000+).You can create a ground based Naval Aviation with multirole duties to protect your Arhipelago together with your Air Force,operating helicopteres and aeroplanes. |
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| Author: | Thiel [ March 12th, 2013, 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Aircraft carrier Design Philippine Navy |
You're talking about a navy that has trouble keeping their sole Hamilton at sea here and you want them to operate two ASW carriers and two LPHs? |
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