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Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ February 28th, 2013, 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Early 30s Panzerschiff

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Note: Those main guns are 12" Twins. Still require some extensive works to be done.

Author:  APDAF [ February 28th, 2013, 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

If it is French why are you are using American equipment?

Nice colour scheme you have there same is someone spotted it. :P

Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ February 28th, 2013, 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

The name is still a temporary name for the ship :)

Author:  Colosseum [ February 28th, 2013, 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

That's a lot of guns on a pretty small hull. IIRC, Graf Spee (a similar design) had only two turrets for a total of 3 guns. Might want to consider downsizing.

Author:  KHT [ February 28th, 2013, 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

Nice looking ship. I like the overall shapes(even though I'm no fan of the colour scheme, but that's just my oppinion)of it.
Wondering a bit on the plane crane and the funnels... wouldn't it be possible to move the aft funnel forward a bit, while keeping the cranes on the sides of it?
And, again, my own oppinion, but I've never understood the big-gun mania for these designs... it won't be fighting battleships(i suppose, and hope, for the sake of the crew), and for trashing cruisers a ten-inch gun works almost as good. ;)

Author:  Zephyr [ March 1st, 2013, 5:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

I like the looks of her!

As for 2 triples vs. 3 twins, I'd think she had room for them, as other ships of similar size. The USN Florida class, for example, had 5 twin 12's on about 80' less hull, the Wyoming class had 6 twin 12's on 40' less, and the New York class had 5 twin 14's on 25' less. So, I'd think this class would have room for 3 twin 12's.

Would twin 10's really save that much size and weight compared to twin 12's? Personally, I would think the additional range and throw weight would offset any potential weight savings.

Author:  Colosseum [ March 1st, 2013, 5:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

I still don't think it's feasible. You've got the armament of the Alaska class cruisers on a hull the size of the USS Houston.

Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ March 1st, 2013, 5:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

AFAIK the Aaska have 3 12" Triples, and my ship have 3 12" Twins. I think it's feasible since the Deutschland have 2 11" Triples and it still have similar fire power on a similar sized hull.

Author:  emperor_andreas [ March 1st, 2013, 6:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

Kinda threw me off there, as it's labeled 'Panzerschiff'; I was asking myself, "If this is a German ship, then why on earth does she have a French name and is apparently flying a USN four-star admiral flag?" :lol:

Then I figured things out. :lol:

Interesting color scheme, and as always, the French build beautiful ships, so she's got great lines. Keep up the great work!

Author:  Thiel [ March 1st, 2013, 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff

I've never really understood the appeal of Panzerschiffs. It seems to me that they fall into a gap between heavy cruisers and battleships where they're too expensive for cruiser work and yet lack the power to stand in the line of battle.

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