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Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
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Author:  Vossiej [ August 20th, 2010, 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Recently I've began embracing the idea of packing a whole lot of weapons on a small ship for use in littoral warfare. And a few days ago Industry Projects - Naval Technologie posted an article about the updated Ensdorf class minesweepers, and I was thinking, boy that would make a great base for a large FAC/Corvette.

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So there she is. I just want to know from you guys wether such a design would be possible in therms of hull-to-weight ratio etc.

Armament:

1x Oto Melara 76mm gun
1x Bofors 57mm gun
1x Goalkeeper 30mm CIWS
4x NLOS M501 Loitering Attack Munition (LAM) (60 missiles in total)
8x Harpoon Block II anti-surface missiles
2x Naval Starstreak MANPADS (4 missiles pre-loaded each)
Author:  TimothyC [ August 20th, 2010, 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Minesweepers make a bad base for anything else. They have so many design decisions that just don't make sense unless you are hunting mines that by the time the design is no longer a minesweeper, you might as well have started from scratch. The use of three different guns (76mm, 57mm, and 30mm) on the hull doesn't help your case.
Author:  Vossiej [ August 20th, 2010, 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Yeah that's what I thought ;)
Author:  Novice [ August 20th, 2010, 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Maybe go for two twin Dardo 40mm gun mountings
Author:  TimothyC [ August 21st, 2010, 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Novice wrote:
Maybe go for two twin Dardo 40mm gun mountings
Further work on this hull is pointless as you have a very expensive, very specialist hull, engine, sensor and equipment suite being used in a situation where they are not needed.
Author:  Vossiej [ August 21st, 2010, 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
But why is this hull not sutable for this task? I believe you if you say it isn't, but why isn't it?
Author:  Bombhead [ August 21st, 2010, 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Most minesweepers are built with GRP hulls and by necessity are not fast.Perhaps a plastic or aluminium hull designed to go slow would not stand up to the stresses of high speed that an FAC would endure.
Author:  Vossiej [ August 21st, 2010, 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
As far as I know these ships are made of non-magnatic steel.
Author:  TimothyC [ August 21st, 2010, 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
Vossiej wrote:
But why is this hull not sutable for this task? I believe you if you say it isn't, but why isn't it?
It's the fact that minesweepers are expensive. You could use one in a gunboat/FAC roll, but a new, purpose built hull would be better.
Author:  klagldsf [ August 21st, 2010, 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gunboat based on Ensdorf-Frankental Class MCM
TimothyC wrote:
You could use one in a gunboat/FAC roll, but a new, purpose built hull would be better.
Or, to be more precise, cheaper.
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