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JSB
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 12:43 pm
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I suppose so and maybe they can be the getting rid of the 'spares' from regunning the CLs to CA, and save adding them to Yamatos in a no treaty but peaceful world.


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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 1:04 pm
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Krakatoa wrote:
Those drawings can be found here ( http://kara-alvama.deviantart.com/art/A ... -201533109 ) if anyone else wants some 'Dutch' inspiration for their ship for this challenge.
I've forgot those alvama anglo-dutch cruiser...................
This are "reflagged" version of SECN studies:
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... ECN131.png
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... gn%201.png
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... gn%202.png
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... gn%203.png

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 2:36 pm
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Just to get a foot in the door whilst I work on it...

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Something for Chile. Designed around a rearranged Thurston design on as near as makes no difference 10,000 tons. 9x 8"/50 - 8x 4"/45 6x 21 or 24" TTs 2x Quad. Pom-Poms and probably a few quad HMGs. Space for two small float planes on a cross deck catapult.
Armouring is somewhat iffy. I'd imagine 6" / 3" inch plating and bulkheads over the machinery and magazines to form boxes the latter being internally formed. Armouring required elsewhere would be splinter protection only.
Machinery wise the inspiration of this design was meant to be capable of 34 knots which the SHP figures don't seem to be available for but to me 32 knots on 80,000SHP doesn't seem too unreasonable. Range is another vague area but considering the lineage I'd imagine it'd have to be in line with that of a County.

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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 5:29 pm
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That's a very interesting looking design B.B. Very Nelsonian looking. Should one of the boats on this side be a motorboat? The more I look at it, the more it grows on me.


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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 5:31 pm
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I can't resist a Shipbucket challenge so I had a crack at an Italian design for Chile:

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Displacement - 9,500t standard
Dimensions - 179.8m x 18.1m x 6.8m
Speed - 32 knots
Range - 8000nm @ 15 knots
Armament - 6 x 2 203mm, 8 x 2 100mm, 8 x 1 37mm, 2 x 4 21in torpedo tubes
Armour - 4in belt, 2in deck, 4in turret, 3in barbette
Crew - 670

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JSB
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 5:42 pm
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Brooklyn based ship with 5' swapped for 4' twins and TTs and beefed up light AA (why not fit the best 40mm if you can ? and yes I accepted that no way would it really have 9x1 40mm)


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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 5:59 pm
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Another two interesting designs from Rowdy36 and JSB.

Those Italian ships always had 'flair'. It also makes a reasonable comparison with the real life Argentinian Almirante Brown.

Its always strange to see different countries guns on each other ships. Might be easier to keep a US look if you used a few twin 40's in place of the singles.


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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 6:20 pm
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Krakatoa wrote:
That's a very interesting looking design B.B. Very Nelsonian looking. Should one of the boats on this side be a motorboat? The more I look at it, the more it grows on me.
From the drawing of the Thurston design one should go aft the whalers on the starboard side but I've yet to add it.

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 10:32 pm
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Whilst far from finished, I too had an idea for an American deisgned cruiser. Using ther Brooklyn and several other mid-late 30s cruiser designs as basis, this is as far as I've come. I am wondering what would be best, 6 single, or 6 twin 5"/38 DP guns.

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 11:04 pm
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Almirante Cochrane Class Cruiser

Most certainly not a looker but hey ho. Finally completed the metamorphosis from NW to AU to PD...
Nobody mention the German cranes!

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Specifications:

Dates:
  • In Construction: 1935-39
  • In Service: 1937-55
Particulars:
  • Length: 570ft (Waterline)
  • Beam: 71ft
  • Draught: 23ft
Propulsion:
Four-shaft double-barrelled geared turbines with 8× Admiralty three-drum boilers for ~80,000SHP
Max. Speed: 32kts
Cruising Speed and Ranges
  • 8000 NMI @ 10kts
  • 2300 NMI @ 30kts
Manning:
  • Standard: 650
  • Flagship: 680
  • Wartime: 720
Armament:
  • 9x BL 8-inch L/50 Mk.VIII guns in triple mounts
  • 8× QF 4-inch L/45 Mk.XVI guns in twin mounts (HA/LA Mk.XIX)
  • 12× QF 2-pounder L/39 Mk.VIII guns in quad mounts (HA Mk.VII)
  • 12x .5-inch L/50 Mk.III machine guns in quad mounts (Mk.I)
  • 6x 21-inch torpedo tubes in triple side-rotating mounts
Aircraft:
  • 2x Light spotter-aircraft, nominally Nimrod or Osprey.
Armouring Scheme:
  • Main Belt: 6-inches tapering to 3 inches
  • Ends: 3-inches
  • Deck over vitals and magazines: 3-inches
  • Turrets: Splinter-proofing
  • Barbettes: 3-inches
  • Other Bulkheads: 1.5-inches
  • Bridge + Tower: Splinter-proofing with limited 1.5 inch plating
~Mark.

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