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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 18th, 2015, 9:24 pm
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I seem to be the only person with any ideas or time to do some justice to Smurfs challenge. Come on guys there are hundreds of design types from Japan to Italy that would suit, British and US designs by the truckload. Get drawing/kitbashing.

My next one is from Holland on the same lines as the previous two small heavy cruisers. Difference in this third design is the placement of the main and secondary armaments.

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 18th, 2015, 9:25 pm
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Oh. I have an idea but It's not in a state to post yet.

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 18th, 2015, 11:54 pm
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Well RL has killed my Ship-bucketing (for a few months more at least) but here a cheap cut of a IJN go at it,

4x2 8'
4x2 5'
2x4 21" TT
AA as fitted by customer.
delivery date never :o :roll:
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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 12:29 am
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That's a powerful looking cruiser JSB. It would certainly outclass any of the South American cruisers that were there in real life. You are quite right to put 21" torpedoes on it as the 24" was certainly on the most secret list.


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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 12:31 am
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I loved the IJN entry but I like 5 turrets design XD

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 9:09 am
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Krakatoa wrote:
My next one is from Holland
A joint venture with spain?
(structure and funnel from spanish cruiser studies)

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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 10:12 am
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JSB, do you allow me just a small quibble?
Those are the triple 5.5inch (155mm) guns the Mogamis originally sported when built as Light Cruisers, you can grab the twin 8-inchers on the 1940 Mogami or in the IJN parts sheet. :)

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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 10:31 am
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Waritem, it could well be a joint project. The original ship I kitbashed came off a fourteen ship set of drawings by Alvama labelled "Anglo - Dutch cruiser forces by Kara Alvama" so I figured it was probably of Dutch origin. The 8" I made from Dutch twin 6" enlarged to size. The twin 4.7" (these are pure Dutch and are in no way related to the LM ones) came off the later Dutch Battleship projects.

Those drawings can be found here ( http://kara-alvama.deviantart.com/art/A ... -201533109 ) if anyone else wants some 'Dutch' inspiration for their ship for this challenge.


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Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 11:50 am
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BB1987 wrote:
JSB, do you allow me just a small quibble?
Those are the triple 5.5inch (155mm) guns the Mogamis originally sported when built as Light Cruisers, you can grab the twin 8-inchers on the 1940 Mogami or in the IJN parts sheet. :)
:o :o :o :(

Kitbashing at 11:54 pm may not work that well :lol:


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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: Cruisers for South AmericaPosted: March 19th, 2015, 11:53 am
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JSB: 12 x 6.1" is still a reasonably strong armament. The Japanese 6.1 had a pretty good range. That ship would still probably have blown away Argentinas pair.


My last converted light cruiser is based on the KM Nurnberg which was commissioned in 1935. The design has to be reworked to take the twin 8". Lot more breadth, and depth required of the hull. Having more tonnage to play with means the armour can be much more comprehensive.

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