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bezobrazov
Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 6:28 pm
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BB, though hugely gratifying, you need not credit me for any parts you've used or amended. Otherwise a great drawing, though my one critique would be that the bridge face looks way too 'British'; not very 'American'. If there's a way to elegantly change that, I'd do it. Otherwise I suppose Missoula and Frederick have a battlegroup to join now...

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 6:48 pm
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Actually the forward part of the bridge follows the shape of that on the Albany class cruisers, i've only inverted the levels giving the upper a bigger greenhouse (while on the Albanys it was the opposite).

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 7:11 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
Otherwise I suppose Missoula and Frederick have a battlegroup to join now...
"Frederick"? What have I missed? :D

BB1987: I love it. I'd probably keep at least one of the forward turrets to allow it to keep it's role as a bombardement ship, but since we're going with missile conversations, I can see why you did it like this. ;)


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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 7:19 pm
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Yes, BB, I can see that now. It still looks a tad odd; not misshaped or anything, just odd, but I'll just have to get used to it. I admit on the Missoula, I drew a larger two-level bridge structure, compared to the Baltimore flagship conversions. I suppose for a battleship your shape is actually a smart one.

KHT: the Frederick is the imaginary sister of the likewise imaginary Missoula.

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 7:58 pm
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KHT wrote:
I love it. I'd probably keep at least one of the forward turrets to allow it to keep it's role as a bombardement ship, but since we're going with missile conversations, I can see why you did it like this. ;)
fear not, she will be the only one of the five sisters to lose all her big guns.

my idea, developeed in a loose timeline, is to have:
-1948-1950 BB-67, 68 and 69 (Montana, Ohio, Maine) completed
-1951, BB-70 and 71 (New Hampshire and Louisiana) construction halted
-1954-1958, BB-70 refitted with a Talos lanuncher (or two, i still need to figure it out) loses turrets 3 and 4
-early 60s, BB-71 refitted as a double-ended Talos warship, also fitted with tartar launchers, loses all main guns an six ou of then 5/54 gun mounts
-mid 70s, BB-70 decommissioned, BB-68 refitted with RIM66 and mk26 launchers loses turrets 3 and 4
-early to mid-80s, BB-67 refitted in Iowa-style with harpoons and ABL, retains full main guns armament, some 5/54 (still figuring it out) landed
-early 90s, BB-69 refit (i have yet to finalize this, but she may end up with main battery forward and VLS aft)

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 9:32 pm
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Ah! Beautifully done BB1987 and Bezo. A very credible drawing which could have been done in Real Life.

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 10:41 pm
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Can I suggest adding some 3"/50 twin mounts in some of the 40mm gun tubs. You might need something for close-in protection.


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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: February 28th, 2013, 11:01 pm
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i think that a bunch of .50-caliber machine guns are all that i need for a 1960s missile conversion

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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: March 1st, 2013, 4:33 am
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Not a bad drawing, but it really does strain credibility that Talos would not be the beginning and end of such a plan. It's just so vastly more capable at the time that anything less doesn't pass the smell test, unfortunately.

I do think 3/50 would be an automatic given on something so huge and high-value.


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Post subject: Re: Montana Class Missile conversionsPosted: March 1st, 2013, 6:34 am
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Very nice work, my friend...I was afraid redesigning the superstructure would detract from the Iowa / Montana classic lines, but that redesigned bridge really looks good. I'm impressed! (Still have to be sold on the funnels, though...:lol:)

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