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Without downloading the image and "measuring" it on PDN, my guess would be

OA Lenght: ~540 feet

Draft: ~ 20 feet max

If we put the beam at say 56 feet (which almost matches the Real Life Capitani Romani's length/Beam Ratio) I'd guess displacement is probably at least in the 6000-7000 ton range, but that's being conservative and having a nagging feeling that it's probably closer to that of a SpruCan

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Beam would probably be closer to 60, at least 57.5 feet or so.

Here, since it's not taking at Wesworld (someone had an independent shipyard and basically almost ruined the game :rolleyes: ) I decided to just fully option it out, so to speak:



Still thinking of a name.

"Company name, Multiuse/customiseable frigate"

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Do you have some specs ????

Oh, well, hello there Parador!

Clearly it seems that China has actually picked up interest. I've posted the specs earlier in the thread, and the weapons fit is customizable - I imagine you'd be using German 10.5cm guns. I've also been thinking of making a seaplane carrier based on this hull, which I think would be an excellent replacement for China's own German-based designs.

Mind that our system really doesn't handle "independent shipyards" at all - and we are all naval enthusiasts who pretty much want to do things our own way. Actually the previous example, as obnoxious as it was, only got one outside customer - me.
Displacement:
7,300 t light; 7,537 t standard; 8,332 t normal; 8,968 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
555.00 ft / 540.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
169.16 m / 164.59 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (4x2 guns), 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (5x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all aft
Weight of broadside 303 lbs / 137 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 66,111 shp / 49,319 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,432 tons

Complement:
435 - 566

Cost:
£3.209 million / $12.835 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 38 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 51 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 33 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,768 tons, 21.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,994 tons, 59.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,032 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 5.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
13,217 lbs / 5,995 Kg = 374.2 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.450
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 19.72 ft / 6.01 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147.6 %
Waterplane Area: 21,469 Square feet or 1,995 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 192 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 721 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.62
- Longitudinal: 2.71
- Overall: 1.71
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

You've still room to add a bit of armour, but I didn't as it wasn't on the drawing.

A seaplane carrier would be cool. Would it be like the Bering Strait or the Langley?

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Uhhh...it would have a hangar and launch facilities on the fantail and probably be on a very different hull.

Using your dimensions I resimmed my designs. Dropping the high speed requirement really helped the design a lot...

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UK Variant 1, International Frigate laid down 1940

Displacement:
7,235 t light; 7,495 t standard; 8,335 t normal; 9,006 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
570.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
173.74 m / 169.16 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
6 - 5.25" / 133 mm guns (3x2 guns), 72.35lbs / 32.82kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
14 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (7x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 461 lbs / 209 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 91,518 shp / 68,272 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,512 tons

Complement:
435 - 566

Cost:
£3.866 million / $15.462 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 58 tons, 0.7 %
Armour: 104 tons, 1.3 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 87 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,447 tons, 29.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,176 tons, 50.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,100 tons, 13.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 5.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
9,454 lbs / 4,288 Kg = 130.7 x 5.3 " / 133 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 13.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.438
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 19.72 ft / 6.01 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.5 %
Waterplane Area: 21,039 Square feet or 1,955 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 141 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 122 lbs/sq ft or 598 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.27
- Longitudinal: 2.09
- Overall: 1.34
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

TT's in quad centerline mounts.

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UK Variant 2, International Frigate laid down 1940

Displacement:
7,182 t light; 7,495 t standard; 8,335 t normal; 9,006 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
570.00 ft / 555.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
173.74 m / 169.16 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
10 - 5.25" / 133 mm guns (5x2 guns), 72.35lbs / 32.82kg shells, 1940 Model
Dual purpose guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1940 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 739 lbs / 335 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Conning tower: 2.00" / 51 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 91,518 shp / 68,272 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,512 tons

Complement:
435 - 566

Cost:
£4.029 million / $16.118 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 92 tons, 1.1 %
Armour: 167 tons, 2.0 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 149 tons, 1.8 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,447 tons, 29.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,026 tons, 48.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,152 tons, 13.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 5.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
8,790 lbs / 3,987 Kg = 121.5 x 5.3 " / 133 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 13.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.438
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26.56 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 19.72 ft / 6.01 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159.9 %
Waterplane Area: 21,039 Square feet or 1,955 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 133 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 576 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.19
- Longitudinal: 1.95
- Overall: 1.25
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Main Battery in a reverse "Brooklyn"/"Myoko"-type layout. TT's in a quad centerline mount.