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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 28th, 2012, 4:17 pm
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I wouldn't expect less from you, Jabba!


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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 28th, 2012, 4:46 pm
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Very nice drawings :)


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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 28th, 2012, 6:06 pm
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jabba wrote:
I decided to start from scratch,
That's too bad, I like the design that you've started, the only thing it's missing is a Crotale launcher.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 29th, 2012, 10:50 am
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I am done. Ace, can you update the first post?
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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 29th, 2012, 3:28 pm
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I can barely read your B-side, and you've got the crediting backwards.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 29th, 2012, 6:51 pm
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...and, just out of curiosity: what exactly am I being credited with? I must be getting old, since my eyes cannot detect it...(I don't mind being so, since your design is a really nice one, but fair should be fair...)

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: March 31st, 2012, 8:22 pm
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FFHN-1 Vandalia Class
Type: frigate
Year of commissioning: 1980
Displacement: 4200 metric tons (full load)
L*B*D: 121m * 14m * 8,5m
Lengthoa: 131m6
Beamoa: 15m
Draft: 4m
Freeboard: 4,5m
Block coefficient: 0,55
Propulsion: CONAG (COmbined Nuclear And Gas)
1 x Westinghouse LWNP, generating 25000 SHP
1 x General Electric LM-2500-30 generating 21,500 SHP
4 x diesel generator
Speed: cruising speed 20 kts, top speed 30 knots
Range: practically unlimited at 20kts, but 1000nm 30 knots time. Patrol range limited only by crew, diesel and helicopter fuel.
Complement: 200
Sensor and processing systems: radar: mk 23 TAS air search, SPS-76 surface search, heli control radar. Directors: 2 x mk 95 NSSM director. Sonar: SQS-56, SQR-19 Towed Array
Electronic warfare and Decoy systems: SLQ-32(V)2, AN/SLQ-25 Nixie
Arnament: vertical loading 155 mm gun with the ability to fire depth charges and sonobouys
Mk 29 NSSM launch system
Phalanx
2 x Mk 32 triple torpedo tubes
Aircraft carried: 2 x SH-3 Sea King ASW helicopters.

The ships would have most likely taken part of the place of the Spruances. (some of) the Spruances would be converted to Kidd types, as was originally planned.
These ships are ideal for keeping an large area of ocean covered with relatively few ships. I designed them along the lines of the Perry class, as I had done a lot of research on those. This ship came out entirely different though, as you can see.
An drawback of the propulsion system is the cost. The only way to cut cost…. Was to cut other systems then the engines. In this case: the radars. This makes the ship unable to do any other role then ASW. For the same reason I chose the perry’s sonar.

Well, please comment. I certainly know this is not the best design for an ship like this, but I just wanted it to be different. And well…… I think I got that covered :P

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: April 1st, 2012, 1:19 am
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Gun fired depth charges? Interesting idea.

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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: April 1st, 2012, 2:53 am
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I have been curious about this since your Oliver Hazard Perry update - what are the grey semi-circular devices near the bottom of the hull? Is that some sort of retractable stabilization system? All in all a very impressive concept and obviously well thought out. The concept of the "nuclear frigate" is an interesting one, I wonder if they would have remained in service or been phased out in the defence cuts following the collapse of the Soviet Union?


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Post subject: Re: NATO ASW Design ChallengePosted: April 1st, 2012, 3:44 am
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Rainmaker wrote:
I have been curious about this since your Oliver Hazard Perry update - what are the grey semi-circular devices near the bottom of the hull? Is that some sort of retractable stabilization system?
Cool water intakes. The Perry was the first hull that I've seen the actual location info for such details on the internet, and therefore is the first use of it on a shipbucket drawing.

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