Shipbucket

Yes. you are completely allowed to do so.

Thank you.

I'm surprised Klag. You usually come on people like a ton-o-bricks when they post something like this.

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Yeah, I know. The conclusion is that I seriously need to look into some blood pressure medication.

But it also depends on what the work itself is trying to come off as. When it's pretty obvious that the guy doesn't know crapola about ships or what he's doing (ala turkishnavyguy), then yeah, it's time for me to reach for my blood pressure medication, so to speak. But when it's clear that he's at least learning, then I'm a lot easier on him.

heuhen's pretty clearly in the latter camp. First of all, he's done quite a bit of real drawings and they're pretty fine (though, yeah, I did explode on him when he didn't follow the guidelines on his first ship, but a part of that's because first of all it's pretty clearly outlined in the style guide [BTW, I lurked here for two months before registering - well, at the old board at least], and second of all, it was such a fine technical drawing actually to begin with - and I got sick and tired of otherwise fine ships getting rejected because they didn't exactly follow the shading guide, ala what kept happening to lazer_one...plus probably some of Colo rubbed off on me, the parts that you don't necessarily want to rub off ) so he's up to snuff from a technical perspective. But secondly, there are very strong hints that he's learning, maybe even experimenting.

To be honest with you, the guess that he had assumed the 4-inchers were single-purpose was just that - a guess erring in his favor. But I've observed that this seems to be a common mistake with people not as familiar with ships, since people seem to assume that a DP gun has to be in a turret - and there's some reasoning behind this assumption as turrets have very visible local directors and etc., plus in USN use there aren't too many DP guns that are in open mounts, while the opposite is true for single-purpose medium-caliber guns. But also, the layout seems to suggest to me that he's either learning, just getting the hang of, or experimenting with turret and gun layout. Like I said, he seems to be trying to emphasize a strong, pre-dread-like secondary armament. But yeah, it's a step in the learning process, and some interesting personal experimentation. And finally, like I said, it shows a lot of technical proficiency in terms of drawing - the hull's a bit overloaded on detail, but it shows he's getting the Shipbucket technique down, which is most important.


And a bit of a note - if you'll recall the AU that I'm working on and just introduced. The hull shape is practically exactly what I've been envisioning for some of the dreadnoughts I want to draw, and it would save me a lot of time in having to draw one from scratch And yes, heuhen will be credited, naturally.

the best way to learn is when you have a person as klagldsf that hits you in the head with a big shovel, until you have learned it.

BTW, it's not a small ship - its size corresponds with very late-WWI era superdreadnoughts (Nagato, Colorado, Queen Elizabeth)

And that's why I call it a small ship

I've started to think about starting me an AU world. But having serious trouble getting a story. so in the meantime I post some of my personnel drawings here, until I can find what kind of AU I will have. But if any of you get a sudden impulse of what kind of AU ...

JK-Class
1 in class

Displacement: As Built: 36204 tons, Modified 1935: 37924 tons
Length: 201,3 m
Beam: 29 m
Draught: max: 10.6 m
Propulsion: 90000 shp, modified 1935: 110000 shp
Speed: 25 knots, modified 1934: 29 knots
Range: 7500 nm at 15 knots, modified 1965: 9700 nm at 17 knots

Armarment: As built:
2*double 310mm
4*single 120mm
8*single 65mm
2*triple Torpedo tubes

Modified 1935
2*triple 295mm
2*double 280mm Bofors
2*150mm/50 Twin Bofors
10*105mm
some 12,5mm and 20mm



Flag of Norway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Norway

You have way too much light AA for a prewar ship.

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That which does not kill me has made a grave tactical error

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Source Materiel is always welcome.

How many should I remove?