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Early 30s Panzerschiff
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Author:  Gollevainen [ March 1st, 2013, 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
Lots of the feasibility of the weapon fit varies from the actuall dimensions and stats of the ship. the beam most likely. Also what should matter is the propulsion and armour, i think when designing this kind of ships, you should start by atleast rough scetch of the internal layout to get grasp on where and what you can stick into the hull.

As for details, those are supposed to be some sort of 5 inch range DP guns as secondaries? As for my personal opinion, for a ship of early 30's that feels bit of like cheating, since apart from the americans, no one else really got there in capital ship secondaries untill the WWII, a mixed armament of secondary and tertiary battery would propably add more realistic aspect.

Drawing wise this is nice thing, specially the "imperial" colors, looks cool nevertheless, so I hope you will continue this desing ;)
Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ March 1st, 2013, 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
Here is a 'clean' version of the ship, and I am planning on fitting the followings onboard:
[ img ]
Must:
6-8 Single 5" AA/DP Guns
2 Seaplanes with 1 Crane

Optional:
Seaplane Hanger for extra 2 seaplanes
Torpedo Tubes
More Boats
Author:  emperor_andreas [ March 3rd, 2013, 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
Nice!
Author:  BrockPaine [ March 3rd, 2013, 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
emperor_andreas wrote:
Interesting color scheme, and as always, the French build beautiful ships, so she's got great lines.
Except none of the lines are French. The funnels and superstructure are all borrowed from the drawing Bezo and I did of the USS Houston, while the turrets appear to be borrowed and lightly-modified from Colo's Alaska. There's not a single French part on it, yet, nor a single French design element - just pieces borrowed from American cruisers.
Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ March 3rd, 2013, 11:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
French is from the name, and the turret is a mix between the German 11" Triples and the American 12" Triples. Now, 'slightly' more progress. I guess the superstructure still require some work and it acts as a 'stand in' for the part.
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Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ March 6th, 2013, 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
[ img ]
This is the 'as commissioned' version of the ship, other versions would be drawn soon.

Displacement:
Standard: 12,500 Long Tons
Full Load: 15,500 Long Tons

Length:
632.5 Feet

Beam:
72 Feet

Draft:
22 Feet

Installed power:
110,000 Horse Power

Propulsion:
4 Shaft Parsons Turbines
8 White-Forster Boilers
4 Screws

Speed:
31 Knots

Range:
10,000 Nautical Miles at 20 Knots

Complement:
Total: 1,050
Officers: 115
Enlisted: 935

Armament:
3 x Twin 12"/50 Mk. 7
4 x Twin 6"/53 Mk. 12
4 x Twin 4.1”/65 Mk. 2 (Licensed 105mm SK L/65 C/33 Dop. L. C/31)
4 x Twin 40mm/60 Bofors Gun
14 x Single 20mm/70 Oerlikon Gun
2 x Quadruple 21" Torpedo Tube

Armor:
Main Turrets: 6”
6” Turret: 4”
Belt: 4”
Deck: 2.5”

Aircraft:
2 Seaplanes

Aviation Facilities:
2 Catapults

Ships in Class:
Danielle
Dorothy
Author:  Blackbuck [ March 6th, 2013, 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
Most certainly not a bad looking vessel, though a couple of observations from my point of view.
  • Why not re-locate the torpedo tubes well aft to be out of the way of exploding in a crowded area of the superstructure if hit?
  • Why not incorporate another mast in the aft tower?
Author:  DG_Alpha [ March 6th, 2013, 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
I would say that's a really nice looking ship, especially in that color scheme. A few formal things: On the right, there's still a bit of orange left from the template and the flag on the aft still has the grey outline (which I think shouldn't be there, except for the 'white' section, check the K-class cruisers on the main page for the corrected version of the flag) and the flagpost is still 'open' at the top.

But overall, as I said, the ship looks real nice.
Author:  Clonecommander6454 [ March 6th, 2013, 11:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Early 30s Panzerschiff
Blackbuck:
Quote:
Why not re-locate the torpedo tubes well aft to be out of the way of exploding in a crowded area of the superstructure if hit?
I am uncertain where could I move it, or maybe I'll just remove the Torps in later versions, followed with a AA upgraded design?
Quote:
Why not incorporate another mast in the aft tower?
Will be added.

DG_Alpha:
Quote:
On the right, there's still a bit of orange left from the template and the flag on the aft still has the grey outline
Already fixed.
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