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heuhen
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 9th, 2014, 11:50 am
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I went through those forums a couple of times. there is so much there that its a little hard to find what you're looking for, but I appreciate your help

you have to look at the first page of that topic.

but here you all parts you need, (note I have got them from that forum topic: Parts sheet discussion"!):

USN Weapon:
http://shipbucket.com/Parts%20Sheets/US ... s%2011.png
USN Radar
http://shipbucket.com/Parts%20Sheets/US ... ts%204.png
USN WW2 and pre-era weapon
http://shipbucket.com/Parts%20Sheets/US ... 0Parts.png
USN WW2 director's
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161 ... r-Mk37.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161 ... r-Mk38.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161 ... r-Mk38.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161 ... r-Mk38.png
USN Small items:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161 ... lItems.png
USN boat sheet:
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j44 ... oats-1.png

RN weapon sheet:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c275/ ... g~original
RN radar sheet:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c275/ ... g~original

Dutch parts sheet:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63276563/dutch ... t/v1.4.png

torpedoes:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e42/M ... edos-1.png

and from bellow deck parts:
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... =16&t=2755
here you can find guns:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63276563/belowdeck%20guns.png
VLS
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63276563/GMLS%2 ... %20VLS.png
or engines.


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sabotage181
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 10th, 2014, 3:21 am
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ok, this is the latest update. still very much a work in progress still.

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I look forward to all comments and suggestions :)


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kellyj
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 10th, 2014, 7:45 am
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I really like where this design is going. But...(theres always a butt)
The midships VLS is right where your engine room will be. Just not enough Real Estate in that area to have both. Better to set the VLS forward of the bridge structure. Also get rid of the "Strike Length" VLS ( the T-Hawk missile). Between Burkes, Tycos, and subs the USN has enough Strike platforms. Keep this guy as an escort/independent mission ship. I suspect on an FFG size hull about the biggest VLS your going to fit is a 32 cell, which can still hold a decent amount of missiles when you consider the Quad-pack Sparrow modules. Obviously your fwd RAM will have to go. Harpoons are not needed since your Helo can launch Hellfires, but if you still want them put them aft of the funnel.
Extend the superstructure from the helo hanger forward to the funnel, then have the 01 level extend aft around the funnel. Put the RHIB in an enclosed side hanger to hide its RCS. Then on this upper deck space you could either fit your Harpoons (2x2 configuration) or mount a pair of the new 30mm guns for small boat defense.
Put the EW system up 1 level where your 50 cal gun is and make the bridge structure flush. Remount the 50 cals with a set just aft of the main gun and another set on top of the helo hanger.
Still, an FFG design that could easily fit in todays fleet.


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sabotage181
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 11th, 2014, 11:27 am
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thank you Kelly, I was thinking a lot along the same lines.

more like this?

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I'm not sure if I'm happy with the forward 30's yet. maybe a little higher? I tried that but it looks awful


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ghost792
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 12th, 2014, 3:02 am
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sabotage181 wrote:
thank you Kelly, I was thinking a lot along the same lines.

more like this?

[ img ]

I'm not sure if I'm happy with the forward 30's yet. maybe a little higher? I tried that but it looks awful
I like this, but I think the previous version still has potential.

What if you swap the amidships VLS and the hanger and landing pad? The midships location is better for helo operations and having the VLS aft eliminates interference with the engine room. I think it would also help the aft freeboard.

I recommend keeping the strike length VLS. To my knowledge, the USN has never used any of the shorter lengths, except maybe the self defense cells on the Ford.


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erik_t
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 12th, 2014, 4:42 am
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The USN has also never had a combatant which, if I may say so, is quite so schizophrenic in role and purpose.


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sabotage181
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 13th, 2014, 2:51 am
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ghost792 wrote:

I like this, but I think the previous version still has potential.

What if you swap the amidships VLS and the hanger and landing pad? The midships location is better for helo operations and having the VLS aft eliminates interference with the engine room. I think it would also help the aft freeboard.

I recommend keeping the strike length VLS. To my knowledge, the USN has never used any of the shorter lengths, except maybe the self defense cells on the Ford.
Thank you ghost, I'm not going to with the mid-ship helo pad for this ship. I tried it out and I like this look better. I have thought about the strike length VLS and decided there is no good reason not to have it. I can still load a non strike load out in it, but also ad strike if the mission calls for it.
erik_t wrote:
The USN has also never had a combatant which, if I may say so, is quite so schizophrenic in role and purpose.
Thank you Erik, but my ship does NOT hear voices in its head....and I'll leave it at that until you explain that a little more ;)

here's the latest. Not sure I'm 100% happy yet but I'm getting there

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All comments and suggestions welcome


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Lebroba
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 13th, 2014, 7:26 am
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I'm really liking this ship!


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Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 13th, 2014, 10:18 am
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I honestly don't get why you need so many 30mm mounts. Most destroyers in the world only carry 2 20-30mm mounts...

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Lebroba
Post subject: Re: FFG(x) 98Posted: February 13th, 2014, 1:09 pm
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Maybe this hull will be stationed in an area that requires alot of transits through straits. You could probably drop down to 2, that would save you having to berth and feed another 5 or 6 Gunner's Mates.


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