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Post subject: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 21st, 2014, 11:21 am
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Inspired by the work of colleagues khyron2000, and I decided to make a contribution to the creation of world oil production in Germany.

So, the first couple of words, actually on the world itself. In Germany, found oil somewhere in the late 19th century, in the late '80s. And of course, Germany has become much richer than it was in RI. This allowed her to win the PMA.

Postwar world I especially do not thought through. But I think that France would drive under the plinth, imposing sanctions on it similar to those received by Germany Versailles. England get off easier lose many colonies, especially in Africa, but India will retain. The French have taken away everything.

The fate of Russia will also be a little different from the one that was in RI. Revolution will be concluded and the Brest peace. As a result, the authorities take the Bolsheviks, but Ukraine will not be able to repel them, although GW win. During the entire period of HS Germans will remain in Ukraine. I think in this alternative HS white is not so much support for the Bolsheviks HS pass easier.

But back to the fleet of the Second Reich. Since the post-war fleet colleague khyron2000, more than well spent. I decided to imagine how we could look like ships preddrednoutnoy era.

Since Germany to finance things, to put it mildly, a bit better than it was in RI and then the money spent on the fleet Germany a lot more relaxed. Thus the German battleships will be somewhat stronger than those that were in RI.

So, as we know the first series of German battleships were armadillos type of Brandenburg. A feature of these ships was the presence of the three towers of the main fire. The Germans decided not to deviate from the already-proven scheme and continue to build battleships solely trёhbashennye. This feature of which is always aroused fierce criticism, both within Germany and abroad, during the First World War, surprisingly, proved to be very useful.

The first battleships different from those that were in RI steel battleships such as Kaiser Friedrich III. Were built 5 battleships series. The head was laid in 1895 and the last in 1898.
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Kaiser Fridrich III, Germani Enter ship type laid down 1898 (Engine 1899)

Displacement:
13 051 t light; 14 179 t standard; 15 096 t normal; 15 829 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(426,51 ft / 426,51 ft) x 66,93 ft x (27,10 / 28,24 ft)
(130,00 m / 130,00 m) x 20,40 m x (8,26 / 8,61 m)

Armament:
6 - 9,45" / 240 mm 40,0 cal guns - 404,25lbs / 183,36kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
18 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 98,69lbs / 44,77kg shells, 250 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mount, 1898 Model
1 x Single mount on sides, evenly spread
12 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 19,17lbs / 8,70kg shells, 400 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mount, 1898 Model
1 x Single mount on sides, evenly spread
12 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,56lbs / 0,71kg shells, 1 500 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mount, 1898 Model
1 x Single mount on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 4 451 lbs / 2 019 kg
6 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 1 673,23 ft / 510,00 m torpedoes - 51,822 t each, 310,931 t total
In 1 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 262,47 ft / 80,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
Ends: 5,91" / 150 mm 131,23 ft / 40,00 m 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
32,81 ft / 10,00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 2,56" / 65 mm 295,28 ft / 90,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Main Belt covers 95% of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,84" / 250 mm 2,56" / 65 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
2nd: 5,91" / 150 mm 2,56" / 65 mm 3,94" / 100 mm
3rd: 3,94" / 100 mm - -
4th: 0,98" / 25 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks: 2,56" / 65 mm For and Aft decks
Forecastle: 2,56" / 65 mm Quarter deck: 2,56" / 65 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 9,84" / 250 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12 737 ihp / 9 502 Kw = 17,50 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 650 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
680 - 885

Cost:
£0,959 million / $3,838 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 885 tons, 5,9%
- Guns: 574 tons, 3,8%
- Torpedoes: 311 tons, 2,1%
Armour: 6 101 tons, 40,4%
- Belts: 4 710 tons, 31,2%
- Armament: 186 tons, 1,2%
- Armour Deck: 1 075 tons, 7,1%
- Conning Tower: 130 tons, 0,9%
Machinery: 2 275 tons, 15,1%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 790 tons, 25,1%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 045 tons, 13,5%
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
28 115 lbs / 12 753 Kg = 66,7 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 3,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25
Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 13,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,683 / 0,687
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,37 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20,65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00%, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m
- Forward deck: 30,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Aft deck: 35,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00%, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m
- Average freeboard: 26,90 ft / 8,20 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63,7%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 56,7%
Waterplane Area: 22 534 Square feet or 2 093 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 507 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,88
- Longitudinal: 3,88
- Overall: 1,02
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 21st, 2014, 7:37 pm
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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 22nd, 2014, 10:07 am
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Gidday AH
did you look at a version following the Brandenburgs layout with the middle turret aft of the second funnel.
Some mates and I did this as a design study a few years back and it did appear to offer advantages as well just having cleaner lines.


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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 22nd, 2014, 10:20 am
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Nice, and welcome to SB.
Your drawing is however quite pixelated, eq. turned bad when transformed from bitmap to a JPEG file. You should try to resave/ reupload it to PNG or GIF format.
Also, when posting here in SB forum, we sorta require not placing any watermarks or other indications to other sites, so I need to kindly request removing all such markings.

Otherwise it seems intresting desing, and has room for making really good SB style drawing :)

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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 22nd, 2014, 10:53 am
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I like it!

I note she's got a _lot_ of armor and is rather slow, more of a coast-defense ship. I'd like to see a version with the armor pared back and get that speed up, turning her into a super Armored Cruiser...


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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 23rd, 2014, 10:44 am
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Post subject: Re: Alternative battleship Kaiser Friedrich IIIPosted: December 23rd, 2014, 10:52 am
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