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Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:Gotrige
I decided I wanted to make a reboot of the Gotrige AU(so if a mod wants to lock the old thread, go ahead). Most of the story remains the same, but Erikrike is never estabilished, so Gotrige covers the entirety of RL Sweden, Norway and Denmark. I've also made a new, simpler flag.

During the wars between the houses of Sverker, Erik and Folkung for the power in Västra Götaland, the House of Sverker would with the help of the Danes emerge victorious. With the Calmar Union during the 14th century, Norway was pulled in as well. The CU would however have a sudden end in 1467, when Johan Sverkersson IV gathered his political opponents in Copenhagen, and executed them all, either by beheading or hanging. This would later become known as The Bloodbath of Copenhagen(Blubade i København). Even though Norway tried to pull herself out off the Union, she was held on to.
In 1540 an expedition was sent to retake Iceland and Greenland. Despite initial difficulties, the two Islands were conquered.
During year 1573 a prince of the House of Württemberg was married into the Royal family of the nation now bearing the name of Gotrige. This led to a fairly large part of Germany being effectively "Gotrigized", even though their influence would greatly decrease during the following centuries. A small piece of land on the German coast would however remain under Gotrigian control even until these days.
In the middle 17th century an interesst for colonies in the New World was suddenly appearing in the goverment. As Gotrige allready had Greenland fairly close to The New World, initial expeditions to close island, and later the continent, would almost allways start from there. In the end, a fairly large part of what might otherwise have been Canada, ended up under the Sceptre of Gotrige. Colonies around Africa was later obtained as well, as well as some in the East Indies. There, a pact with the Dutch would be sealed in 1728 as to avoid fighting between the two nations, and to easier defend against other intruders. This pact would last until WW2, when both countries were more or less forced from their colonies.
During the Napoleonic Wars, Gotrige remained neutral until the close end, were they joined forces with Napoleon's enemies.
The following century would go on relatively peacefully, no serious danger to Gotrige's empire really happening untill WW1 started.

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There were a LOT of inconcistanies in equipment and overall look on the ships, all depending on what RL design I liked at the moment. This redo aims at taking away these inconcistanies, and make the designs more streamlined and matching each other. Some old ships may be redesigned and redrawn(If I ever get around to it, the Sverkre Grip is a ship I want to redraw, becouse while I was happy with the design, there were some details that sorta bugged me), some will not reappear at all(Like the Vaderneriget Super Battleship), and some new designs will appear.
And, I will off cource reserve some four-five posts for different ship types.
Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
Capital Ships


Sverkre Grip-Class
The Sverkre Grip class was built as a reply to the fast battleships laid down by other superpowers. The HGrMS Sverkre Grip was famously the flagship of Jonas Crohnanker in the pacific war.
Ships in class:
HGrMS Sverkre Grip
HGrMS Danske Leopard
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33 400 tonnes

4x2 405 mm/45 M/16
6x2 130 mm/47 M/15
4x1 75 mm/40 M/15
4x1 450 mm TT

Belt: 330 mm
Deck: 120 mm
Turrets: 390mm
Conning Tower:320

26 knots
8300nm/15 knots

Konger Sverker XVIII-Class 1937
The Konger Sverker XVIII class was the first(and only) battleships Gotrige built in(relative) accordance with the naval treaties. They were armed with nine 375mm/47 rifles for the main artillery, with sixteen semi-automatic 130mm/50 serving as secondaries, theoretically capable of DP service, and a slew of smaller AAA, being one of the first Capital Ships in the world to sport the Bofors 40 mm. She was heavily armoured, with an armour belt of 330 mm and deck protection of 175 mm. The speed was that of 30 knots.
The first ship was commissioned in January 1941, the second in October the same year.
The KS18 spent her time either waiting for action in port, or stalking the ocean in fruitless search for German raiders. Suffering damage from a torpedo from a U-boat, she was taken in for repair and modernization, reinforcing her AAA and improving FC. After the mod, she was named flagship of the Atlantic Fleet in 1943, and served in that capacity to the end of the war.
She was mothballed in 1949, and decommissioned in 1958. Two years later she was sold for scrap.
The second ship, Druttning Viktohria was transferred to the pacific soon after commissioning, along with the British Force Z. She remained in Singapore, escaping their fate, but only twelve days later shared it when she fled Singapore.
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Konger Sverker XVIII, Gotrige Battleship laid down 1937

Displacement:
	37 103 t light; 39 069 t standard; 41 810 t normal; 44 003 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
	(775,23 ft / 761,15 ft) x 103,02 ft x (33,79 / 35,19 ft)
	(236,29 m / 232,00 m) x 31,40 m  x (10,30 / 10,73 m)

Armament:
      9 - 14,76" / 375 mm 47,0 cal guns - 1 673,75lbs / 759,20kg shells, 100 per gun
	  Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1937 Model
	  3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
		1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5,12" / 130 mm 50,0 cal guns - 70,97lbs / 32,19kg shells, 300 per gun
	  Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1937 Model
	  8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
		3 raised mounts
      26 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 2,14lbs / 0,97kg shells, 3 000 per gun
	  Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model
	  10 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
		4 raised mounts
	  3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
		1 raised mount
      4 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,51lbs / 0,23kg shells, 10 000 per gun
	  Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1937 Model
	  2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
		2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 16 257 lbs / 7 374 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:		Width (max)	Length (avg)		Height (avg)
	Main:	13,0" / 330 mm	455,38 ft / 138,80 m	14,44 ft / 4,40 m
	Ends:	Unarmoured
	Upper:	6,89" / 175 mm	466,54 ft / 142,20 m	7,22 ft / 2,20 m
	  Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
		10,2" / 258 mm	354,33 ft / 108,00 m	19,36 ft / 5,90 m
	Beam between torpedo bulkheads 81,36 ft / 24,80 m

   - Hull void:
		0,00" / 0 mm	  0,00 ft / 0,00 m	0,00 ft / 0,00 m

   - Gun armour:	Face (max)	Other gunhouse (avg)	Barbette/hoist (max)
	Main:	16,5" / 420 mm	9,25" / 235 mm		15,0" / 380 mm

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
	6,89" / 175 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12,28" / 312 mm, Aft 9,25" / 235 mm

Machinery:
	Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, 
	Geared drive, 4 shafts, 162 234 shp / 121 026 Kw = 30,50 kts
	Range 9 500nm at 15,00 kts
	Bunker at max displacement = 4 933 tons

Complement:
	1 461 - 1 900

Cost:
	£19,199 million / $76,797 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
	Armament: 3 587 tons, 8,6 %
	   - Guns: 3 587 tons, 8,6 %
	Armour: 14 209 tons, 34,0 %
	   - Belts: 4 704 tons, 11,3 %
	   - Torpedo bulkhead: 2 578 tons, 6,2 %
	   - Armament: 3 365 tons, 8,0 %
	   - Armour Deck: 3 003 tons, 7,2 %
	   - Conning Towers: 559 tons, 1,3 %
	Machinery: 4 496 tons, 10,8 %
	Hull, fittings & equipment: 14 426 tons, 34,5 %
	Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 707 tons, 11,3 %
	Miscellaneous weights: 385 tons, 0,9 %
	   - Hull below water: 45 tons
	   - Hull void weights: 150 tons
	   - Hull above water: 40 tons
	   - On freeboard deck: 80 tons
	   - Above deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
	Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
	  58 119 lbs / 26 363 Kg = 36,1 x 14,8 " / 375 mm shells or 10,1 torpedoes
	Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
	Metacentric height 6,3 ft / 1,9 m
	Roll period: 17,2 seconds
	Steadiness	- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
			- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
	Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,09

Hull form characteristics:
	Hull has a flush deck,
	  a normal bow and a cruiser stern
	Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,552 / 0,558
	Length to Beam Ratio: 7,39 : 1
	'Natural speed' for length: 27,59 kts
	Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
	Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
	Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18,00 degrees
	Stern overhang: 4,27 ft / 1,30 m
	Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
				Fore end,	 Aft end
	   - Forecastle:	20,00 %,  30,18 ft / 9,20 m,  26,25 ft / 8,00 m
	   - Forward deck:	30,00 %,  26,25 ft / 8,00 m,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m
	   - Aft deck:	35,00 %,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m,  21,33 ft / 6,50 m
	   - Quarter deck:	15,00 %,  21,33 ft / 6,50 m,  20,34 ft / 6,20 m
	   - Average freeboard:		23,82 ft / 7,26 m
	Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
	Space	- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,1 %
		- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 166,5 %
	Waterplane Area: 54 846 Square feet or 5 095 Square metres
	Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
	Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 990 Kg/sq metre
	Hull strength (Relative):
		- Cross-sectional: 0,95
		- Longitudinal: 1,47
		- Overall: 1,00
	Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
	Excellent accommodation and workspace room

HGrMS Konger Sverker XVIII
HGrMS Druttning Victohria
Notes: That aft view was a fucking nightmare. The props... I'm rather pleased with all the view though. :mrgreen:

Amiral Crohnanker Class 1987
The biggest surface combatant built for the GRN since WW2, this class consisted of two 18 000 tonnes cruisers designed mainly for ASuW and AAW. Served mainly as flagships for battlegroups.
Ships in class:
HGrMS Crohnanker
HGrMS Quarner
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18 200 tonnes

1x AN/SPS-48 Equivalent
1x AN/SPS-49 Equivalent
3x AN/SPS-67 Equivalent
1x AN/SPQ-9 Equivalent
2x Type 909 Equivalent
4x MK-95 Illuminator Equivalent

1x 130mm/60 M/70 DP
2x 30mm/81 M/83 CIWS
12 YMR M/84 (P-700 Equivalent)
2x64 LVR M/74B (Sea Dart Equivalent)
4x8 LLVR M/80 (RIM-7 Equivalent)
2x3 Mk.46 Torpedo

2x Heavy Helicopters

30+ knots(Nuclear)
Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
Cruisers
Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
Escorts

D-class destroyer
Laid down in 1929 to counter the Japanese super destroyers. Not entirely successful, mainly due to the main artillery’s placement in single purpose deck mounts without hoists, as well as short range.
Ships in class:
HGrMS Djerv
HGrMS Draege
HGrMS Drysteg
HGrMS Draaper
HGrMS Dulg
HGrMS Diamand
HGrMS Dam
HGrMS Dillid
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1800 tonness

2x2 130mm/42 M/26
1x2 75mm/60 M/28
2x 13mm/62 M/29

34 knots
3120NM/15 knots
Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:21 pm ]
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Reserved
Author:  KHT [ August 26th, 2013, 8:21 pm ]
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Reserved
Author:  Rodondo [ August 26th, 2013, 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
Stunning work, good to see someone else doing four views! Though I think I recognize my planking that seems to be as widespread as the flu ;)
Author:  eswube [ August 27th, 2013, 2:01 pm ]
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Awesome work! :)
Author:  KHT [ August 27th, 2013, 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
Thanks!

Don't know how many four views I'll make(I'm more accustomed to the side and top view...), but hopefully there will be more. I might PM you for some help on smaller ships though. ;)
I actually don't know if I looted those planking from one of your drawings a really long time ago... quite possible though. If so, thanks. :mrgreen:
Author:  Rodondo [ August 27th, 2013, 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Re:Gotrige
I'd be more than happy to help, though I've never seen such a large 4-view AU drawing before, though it seems you've doubled up on your shading on fore and aft views (Port and starboard have same shading) Though I'm not sure what SB standard exactly dictates on such matters

Don't worry about it, its basically a part sheet piece :P
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