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Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Kingdom of Grays Harbor
FORWARD The Kingdom of Grays Harbor was “born” in January of 2003 as a nation on NationStates, and has been a WIP since then. The initial concept was to have GH as a take on the British Empire moved into modern times. I’ve tried to stay with that concept to some degree, but have more or less moved off in my own direction, using several different elements from throughout history as inspiration and ideas. As it stands now, it is somewhat British-like, but with a few Americanisms tossed in as well. Hopefully, the idea comes off as something unique, and not just a copy/paste of any particular real nation. The setting for GH is part of a larger world, not the earth, so the maps and histories will not be found in any history books. The primary map locations come from a larger ‘world map’ from my region in NS, a map that has also been a WIP since its inception in December 2002 and one which continues to evolve. Our primary adversaries have been the Vendellian Alliance (a loose confederation of several German themed nations) and Vassfforcia (a Hispanic-Venetian amalgamation). Allies have historically been Aerigia, New Yavin and Clearwater. Los Paises Lejanos is sometimes an ally, sometimes a rival, dependent on the situation. My goal has been to create a well-rounded nation, touching on many different aspects. There is the government, flags, stamps, currency, railroads, airlines, corporations, and of course, the military. As SB is primarily concerned with naval matters, that will of course be my main focus here, the Royal Navy. I may well touch on other aspects briefly on occasion, but the RN will naturally be foremost. As I will not be posting things in any particular order, but instead as they are created, re-created or just mentioned, there will be Table of Contents which will be to keep things in proper order, with the relevant posts or images to each “chapter” linked to. Hopefully, that will assist with continuity. When I started creating my navy I used existing designs and classes of warships currently in service. To try and lend a level of believability, I used images of those ships along with their stats and descriptions. As that method caught on among other players, and not wanting to be just another lemming in the herd, I took it another step and began adding former ships as well, eventually having an entire history of ships reaching back to the 1880’s. At this point, I hadn’t tried creating my own quite yet, but then I found the Blueprints website a few years ago, which led me to Shipbucket. Liking what I saw, I downloaded ships galore so that I could get better ideas on what my navy consisted of. I still used actual photos for my websites, but the quality of the SB drawings kept drawing me back to them. Of course, now that everybody and their cousin are also using real designs for their own navies, it has become less satisfying than it had been in the past to use real ships, particularly when naval dolts began claiming they had fleets of 500 Kirov’s and 1000 Nimitz’s. So, it was back to the drawing board for me, so to speak, and start to re-invent my navy yet again. Eventually, I hope to have all my ships replaced with either kitbashes or original designs. It may take a while, but I have patience. I’ve spent 9 years already creating this little bit of fictitious fantasy, I guess I can spend a few more re-creating it. A couple ground rules that I would ask be followed, please 1.) If you wish to quibble or comment about any particular ship, please do so here in that topic so as not to clutter this 'factbook' up with page after page of point-counterpoint-argument. Yes, I make mistakes, that much should be pretty obvious by now, but I'd like to keep this particular topic clean. 2.) Any errors in crediting are just that, errors. If I make one, please just PM me and let me know, don't make a big deal about how I left a name off the credits or whatever. Its not malicious. Its not meant as an insult. It would be a goof, simple as that, and I would prefer not to look anymore foolish than I already do. Now that I have thoroughly confused everybody, lets get on with the show.

Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
TABLE OF CONTENTS I. THE KINGDOM (1) General Demographics (2) Flags of the Kingdom and Commonwealth II. THE ROYAL NAVY (OVERVIEW) (1) Fleet Organization Organizational chart of 1985 (2) History of the Royal Navy (3) Naval Rank and Branch Insignia (4) Hull Numbers and Ship Classifications (5) Naming Conventions III. AIRCRAFT CARRIERS Harpy Class 1919 CV Titania Class 1924 CV Basilisk Class 1929 CV Cyclops Class 1932 CV Unicorn Class 1935 CV Medusa Class 1937 CV Salamander Class 1939 CV Gargoyle Class 1940 CV Cerberus Class 1942 CV Wyvern Class 1942 CVL Quinn Bay Class 1942 CVE Phoenix Class 1946 CV Manticore Class 1950 CV Triton Class 1952 CVL Chimera Class 1956 CV Scylla Class 1965 CV Royal Class 1967 CVN Minotaur Class 1972 CVN Pegasus Class 1981 CVN Dragon Class 1988 CVN Bastet Class 1992 CVLN Buccaneer Class 1997 CVH Valkyrie Class 2005 CVN IV. BATTLESHIPS & BATTLECRUISERS Battleships (Pre-Dreadnaught) King David I Class – 1879 Perseus Class – 1882 Majestic Class – 1885 Royal Isles Class – 1889 Aberdeen Class – 1890 Warrior Class – 1895 Berelain Class – 1898 Bulwark Class – 1900 Valiant Class - 1903 Royal Stag Class – 1907 Battleships (Dreadnaught) Sovereign Class - 1906 King Stephen III Class - 1909 Triumph Class - 1910 Centurion Class - 1912 Glorious Class - 1913 Red Queen Class - 1914 King Malcolm Class -1917 King Robert Class - 1920 Stella Maris Class - 1924 Harberia Class - 1935 Grenadier Class - 1940 2nd Class Battleship (Battlecruiser after 1925) Royal Crown Class - 1910 Superb Class -1912 Sanxay Straits Class - 1913 Heroic Class - 1914 Victorious Class - 1917 Matchless Class - 1924 Captains Class - 1936 Sentinel Class - 1942 V. CRUISERS 1885-1925 Armoured Cruisers Minerva Class - 1888 Cassandra Class - 1891 Argonaut Class - 1897 Poseiden Class - 1900 Artemis Class - 1905 Pluto Class - 1909 Ajax Class - 1911 Orion Class - 1914 Saturn Class - 1917 (Heavy Cruiser after 1925) Matchless Class - 1924 (Battlecruiser after 1925) Protected Cruisers Barracuda Class - 1885 Mountain Class - 1893 River Class - 1899 Bay Class - 1903 Valley Class - 1908 3rd Class Cruisers Mordred Class - 1885 Cavalier Class - 1889 Firefly Class - 1895 Adventure Class - 1908 Dauntless Class - 1910 Admiralty Board War Emergency Cruisers (all classified as light cruisers after 1925) Illustrious Class - 1914/15 Resolute Class - 1914/15 Tempest Class -1915/16 Bonaventure Class - 1916 Enterprise Class - 1916 Scout Cruisers Wyvern Class - 1889 Phoenix Class - 1893 Cockatrice Class - 1897 Minotaur Class - 1906 Dragon Class - 1911 Lilith Class - 1922 (light cruiser after 1925) 1925-Present Heavy Cruisers Saturn Class - 1917 Jupiter Class - 1927 Vesta Class - 1927 Atlas Class - 1928 Hera Class - 1929 Neptune Class - 1932 Rhiannon Class - 1940 Light Cruisers Cordelia Class - 1926 Savage Class - 1932 Colonies Class (Windward Islands Class - 1937, Newydd Arwr Class - 1940, Grayson Islands Class - 1941) Mt Monarch Class - 1947 Mt Diamond Class - 1958 (CLH) Missile Cruisers Greensward Class - 1964 Phaeton Class - 1969 Gorgon Class - 1974 Mars (Groups I, II, III) Class - 1980 St Edward Class - 2007 VI. DESTROYERS Large Destroyers Olympia Class - 1930 Bremerton Class - 1935 Kittings Class - 1939 Eugene Class - 1943 Fleet Destroyers Beluga Class (1888) Harbour Seal Class (1892) Peregrine Class (1895) Aberdeen Class (1897) Richardson Class (1902) Berkings Class (1906) Fannon Class (1909) Westport Class - 1911-13 Port Hope Class (1914-16) Yelm Class - 1916-17 (Yelm Class Group 1) Port Ludlow Class - 1917 (Yelm Class Group 2) Remsley Class - 1917 (Yelm Class Group 3) Union Class - 1918 (Yelm Class group 4) Richardson Class - 1929 Leichester Class - 1931 Elma Class - 1932 Brentwood Class - 1934 Fanchester Class - 1935 Chehalis Class - 1936 Riverside Class - 1941 Sumerdale Class - 1944 Gold Hill Class - 1950 Missile Destroyers Aberdeen Class - 1959 Carsden Class - 1973 Kasten Class - 1991 Port Lucie Class - 1995 Olympia Class - 1997 Port Blanche Class - 2007 VII. TORPEDO BOATS & FRIGATES Torpedo Boats Frigates Starlight Class - 1936 Vigilant Class - 1937 Tornado Class - 1940 Archer Class - 1942 Enchanter Class - 1943 Diablo Class - 1946 Duncan Class - 1955 Cavalier Class - 1956 Jeanne Class - 1958 Cutlass Class - 1961 White Rose Class - 1966 Ruffian Class - 1974 Intrepid Class - 1982 Regal Class - 1991 Millennium Class - 2000 VIII. PATROL & CORVETTES Inshore Patrol Boats Peregrine Class - 1985 Defender Class - 1991 Corvettes (Offshore Patrol & Aviso) Castle Class - 1927 Foxglove Class - 1929 Primrose Class - 1933 Elm Class - 1937 Stewart Class - 1941 Perpugilliam Class - 1943 Wraith Class - 1956 Seahorse Class - 1978 Blakely Class - 2005 Lionsgate Class - 2013 IX. AMPHIBIOUS WARFARE X. SUBMARINES Fleet Submarines (Diesel-Electric) Moray Class - 1900 Tigershark Class - 1903 Archerfish Class - 1907 Batfish Class - 1908 Catfish Class - 1909 Hammerhead Class - 1912 Great White Class - 1919 Quillback Class - 1928 Darter Class - 1929 Cowray Class - 1930 Sturgeon Class - 1933 Conger Class - 1934 Triggerfish Class - 1937 Moonfish Class - 1940 Seahorse Class - 1954 Perch Class - 1960 Fleet Submarines (Nuclear) Marlin Class - 1954 Skate Class - 1958 Starfish Class - 1967 Barracuda Class - 1971 Witch Eel Class - 1982 Drumfish Class - 2004 Coastal Submarines Fitzhugh Class - 1930 Durning Class - 1933 Serra Class - 1939 Special Service Submarines Flying Fish Class - 1936 (SSR) Skipjack Class - 1943 (SSR) Harbour Seal Class - 1959 (SSBN) Darkwater Class - 1971 (SSXN) Prince Edward Class - 1976 (SSBN) Lord Vincent Class - 1997 (SSGN) Ichthyosaur Class - 2009 (SSXN) XI. MINE WARFARE Minelayers Vincent Stourley Class - 1919 Edmund Boyle Class - 1927 Minesweepers & Mine Hunters XII. INTELLIGENCE VESSELS Stargazer Class - 2005 XIII. FLEET AIR ARM Aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm and Marine Aviation, 1912-49 Aircraft Chart, 1911-1946 SC-3 Class Scout Balloon XIV. ROYAL FLEET AUXILLERY 1. Royal Yachts 2. Hospital Ships Lt Elizabeth Rhamey Class Solace Class 3. Training Ships Plover Class Helicopter Training Ship 2003 4. Tenders Tair River Class - 1934 (Seaplane Tender) 5. Deck, Dock & LASH Ships 6. Transports 7. Stores Ships 8. Colliers 9. Oilers 10. Repair & Salvage Ships 11. Harbour Vessels 12. Icebreakers 13. Combat Support Ships 14. Miscellaneous Classification XV. ROYAL MARINES A. Rank and Insignia XVI. ROYAL OCEANOGRAPHIC BUREAU XVII. OTHER SEA SERVICES A. Royal Coast Guard Peregrine Class Inshore Patrol- 1985 Blakely Class Corvette - 2005 XVIII. MERCHANT NAVY XVIV. APPENDIX (1) List of RW equivelents to equipment and weapons systems used Missiles NOTE: This page is a constant WIP and will be updated as new items are added or linked.

Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
Full official name: United Kingdoms of Grays Harbor General Usage Names: Kingdom of Grays Harbor, Grays Harbor, Insufferable Dandies Head of state's title: King Standard term in office for head of state: Indefinate Current head of State: King Paul-Emil II Head of Government: Prime Minister Current Head of Government: Sir William FitzMorris (Whig) Capital city: Aberdeen (pop. 467,000; metro area 4,620,000 including the city of Richardson (pop. 419,000)) MAP OF THE KINGDOM POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICS: Population: Metropolitan: 407,350,150 Overseas States: 29,326,475 TOTAL: 436,676,625 Male: 49.7% Female: 50.3% Median age: 36.7 years Population growth rate: 0.89% Birth Rate: 14.7/1000 Death Rate: 8.3/1000 Life expectancy: total population: 78.10 years (male: 75.20 years, female: 81.00 years) Unemployment Rate: 2.67% GDP Per Capita: $28,404.69 Citizens are referred to as Harberian or Harbs. AREA: Grays Harbor Metropolitan: 1,856,725 sq m Southern Territories: 512,625 sq mi Alterdamm: 3850 sq mi The Top 5 Largest Cities of the Kingdom: Westport: City-7,995,850; Metro-18,940,000 Cushman: City-5,350,000; Metro-13,652,000 Montesano: City-3,980,000; Metro- 10,800,000 Copalis: City-3,271,000; Metro- 8,600,000 Union: City- 2,680,000; Metro-5,723,000 The Official State religion of the Kingdom is the Harberian Catholic Church. The HCC recognizes the Authority of the Old Catholic Church and the Pope, however, Primacy within the Harberian Catholics is held by the Archbishop of Hoodsport, currently Cardinal Eoewn Falkirk. The Kingdom, even though the HCC is recognized as the Official Church of the nation, has religious tolerence laws in effect, and all religions are legal to practice. General breakdown of religious affiliation: Harberian Catholic Church - 70% Various Protestant Denominations - 11% Roman Catholic Church - 4% Coptic Church - 3% Jewish - 3% Various pagan Religions - 3% Atheist/Agnostic - 3% Buddhist - 2% Other - 1% Provinces: The Provinces are the original 15 former independent Harberian States which unified in 1801 to form the Kingdom, plus East Olympia and West Saxony. Aberdeen Andor Arafel Berelain East Olympia Eldiwynn Illian Kandor Loannis Malkier Mason Saldaea Shienar Simpson West Olympia West Saxony Whidby Overseas Provinces: The Overseas Provinces, or Territories as they are also known, are overseas possessions of the Kingdom, and are considered an integral part of the Kingdom. As with the home Provinces, they have limited local autonomy but defer to the Crown for Foreign affairs and Military matters. The Territories are: Alterdamm (1,654,000) Swannsland (5,320,000) New South Kitsap (7,810,000) Torrea (4,400,000]) Wakefield (3,520,000) Western Audentia (3,675,000) Dominions: The Dominions are former colonial possessions which have been granted full independence, yet remain members of the Commonwealth. The Dominions are: Aldeshar (64,400,000) [1888] New Kandor (103,800,000) [1903] Salish Confederacy (Wiesta Amereka) (29,600,000) [1936] Shan Khai (39,550,000) [1936] Leegesia (17,500,000) [1947] Grayson (17,220,000) [1951] Amandaea (22,390,000) [1962] North Justorica (38,400,000) [1970] Devons Island (7,325,000) [1987] Channelview (753,000) [2008] Schwerhaven (N/A) [1936] {Schwerhaven left the Empire and joined the Germanic Alliance in 1954 as a Prussian Province} Crown Colonies: The Colonies are possessions of the Crown. They have local autonomy under an appointed governer and locally elected council. Foreign affairs for the colonies are conducted by the Royal government under the Colonial Office of the Home Ministry and the Foreign Ministry. Military affairs are under the Defence Ministry and Naval Ministry. The Colonies are: Beltain (2,460,000) Genesia (1,970,000) Harberian Georgia (4,400,000) Laird Islands (43,000) Louth (4,250,000) Manetheron (3,167,000) Marilina (2,500,000) New Brikken (9,800,000) North Bartow (6,180,000) Penneforthe (4,400,000) Puhau (2,720,000) Receland (8,800,000) Rhall Islands (1,290,000) Shelton & Mason (435,000) Sevia (2,100,000) South Bartow (5,800,000) Tega Cay (1,950,000) Vaughn Islands (870,000) Windward Islands (3,630,000) Dependencies and Protectorates: The Dependencies are possessions of the Crown which do not have either colonial or provincial status, but are adminstered direct by the Home Ministry. They have limited local autonomy. The Chunu Protectorates are Aboriginal groups which have full local autonamy, but depend on the Kingdom for Defense purposes and to conduct foreign affairs. They are part of the Commonwealth but not the Kingdom. The other dependencies are special cases. Lost Vegas and Nastic are fully independent nations which rely on the Kingdom for defence purposes. Nastic is also a former colonial possession which obtained ther independence in 1970, but who opted to not remain as members of the Commonwealth. Dependencies: Tern Bay (46,000) Richmond Island (758, mostly arctic researchers and their support staff) St Anna (2,300) Chunu Protectorates: Kechunu (630,000) Enchunu (865,000) Chuchunu (1,240,000) Panakol (2,248,000) Bankonna (550,000) Other Protectorates: Lost Vegas (2,750,000) Nastic (115,000)

Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
National and Subnational flags of the Kingdom and Commonwealth National Flags The Kingdom of Grays Harbor The Dominions Subnational Flags States and Provinces Colonies The state flag of the Kingdom is the national flag for all colonies. They are permitted their own distinct merchant ensign and governers flags, which are in many cases used as unofficial "national" flags by the colonial residents. Dependencies and Protectorates CIVIL ENSIGN The civil ensign is the flag flown by privately owned non-commercial boats and yachts. The standard ensign has the crossed anchors in a deep blue canton. There are also several yacht clubs and boating societies who, over the years, have been granted permission to fly their own ensign on Royal authority. These are the same as the standard civil ensign except the crossed anchors are replaced by the club or society logo or arms. Yacht clubs, as a general rule, are based in a single locale with limited membership. Boating Societies can be at-large societies who draw their members from various fraternal or professional associations. SHIPPING COMPANY FLAGS Each Registered Shipping Company has their own house flag, as well as funnel identification. The shipping company flag is flown from the mast nearest the con while at sea, and as the jack while in port. The appropriate merchant ensign is flown from the stern. From L to R; House Flag, Funnel Markings, and Cap Device.

Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:	St Edward Class Cruiser
MISSILE CRUISER - ST EDWARD CLASS General Characteristics Length: 539' / 163.4 m Beam: 58' / 17.7 m Draught: 19' Machinery: CODAG: 2 x Mann-Ringgold diesels; 2 x D300 gas turbines Speed: 33 knots Range: 7400 NM @ 15 knots Complement: 368 Armament Guns: .. 2 x 4.5"/55 Mark VIII (2 x 1) ............ 2 x 20mm CIWS ............ 4 x 20mm Autocannon (4 x 1) ............ 6 x Stingray ASW TT (2 x 3) Missiles: .. 2 x 64-Cell Mark 41 VLS (Viper SSM; Tsunami Cruise Missile; SeaTiger ASROC; SeaDragon SAM) ............... 1 x 21-Cell SeaDagger BPDMS Aircraft: 1 x Helicopter Ships in class Royal Navy HMS St Edward (2007) HMS St Mark (2007) HMS St Michael (2008) HMS St William (2008) HMS St Catherine (2009) HMS St Mary (2010) HMS St Francis (2011) HMS St Rose (2012) Amandaea HMAmS Condor (2009) The St Edward class was the result of a 2001 requirement by the Admiralty for a smaller, less expensive, alternative to the larger Mars class cruisers. In order to save space a central battery was settled upon, however, this has proven to result in extremely cramped engine spaces without adding much benefit. While the initial goal of having a smaller cruiser with similar offensive capabilities as the Mars class was accomplished, the tradeoffs in tight spaces for the missile battery and engines have proven problematic. The lack of room for Flag facilities has also limited their use to secondary/supplemental roles. RETURN TO TABLE OF CONTENTS

Author:	Zephyr [ February 19th, 2012, 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Missile Systems
GH Missiles and their RW equivalents SSM Asp = SAAB RB-04 (1955-1973) (FAA aircraft only) Mongoose = Gabriel (1962-75) Tarantula = SAAB RB-08 (1972-87) Scorpion = SAAB RBS-15 (1983-2008) Ferret = Norway Penguin (1972-Present) Viper = Norway NSM (2004-Present) Cruise Missile Tsunami = Tomahawk SAM SeaGuard = UK Sea Wolf ----------------- SeaDragon Mk I = RIM-66A 1MR Mk II = RIM-66B 1MR Mk III = RIM-67 Mk IV = RIM-66C 2MR Mk V = RIM-66D 2MR MK VI = RIM-66H 2MR Mk VII = RIM-66J 2MR MK VIII = RIM-66K 2MR Mk IX = RIM-66L 2MR Mk X = RIM-66M 2MR Mk XI = RIM-156 Mk XII = RIM-161B Mk XIII = RIM-166D Mk XIV = RIM-174 ------------------ SeaSpike Mk I = RIM-7E Sea Sparrow Mk II = RIM-7H Sea Sparrow Mk III = RIM-7M Sea Sparrow Mk IV = RIM-162 ESSM ------------------ SeaDagger = RIM-116 RAM ------------------ SeaDart = SeaCat ------------------ SeaBolt = Aster ASW Sea Tiger = ASROC Stingray = Mark 32 SVTT system RETURN TO TABLE OF CONTENTS

Author:	Zephyr [ February 21st, 2012, 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
RANK AND BRANCH SPECIALTY INSIGNIA Notes: Fleet Midshipman is the equivelent of an Ensign in most navies. Their insignia is differentiated from Academy Midshipman by the addition of the knot. They must serve a one year probationary period in the fleet or shore installation prior to promotion to Sub-Lt. Line branch officers have a curl above their topmost stripe, non-line officers do not. RATINGS AND ENLISTED RANK Both Command Chief Petty Officer and Command Chief Petty Officer of the Navy are E-10 Grade and are the only enlisted grades which do not wear an occupational specialty as part of their rating insignia. Both are Brevet ratings for an E-7/8/9, and are held by the senior enlisted person of an organization or ship for the Command Chief, and the senior enlisted person of the Royal Navy for the Command Chief of the Navy. Once they leave that position they revert to their previous rating for administrative purposes but continue to draw pay at the E-10 rate, and are awarded the Command rank permanently upon retirement. RATINGS OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY INSIGNIA RETURN TO TABLE OF CONTENTS

Author:	schepper911 [ February 21st, 2012, 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
Its great to see that you use the Belgian Navy branch insignia, in my case i am an gunners mate and i wear the (in your navy the ordnance branch insignia) in my navy i can also use the gunners branch insignia, i don't want to nitpick just thinking out loud. May i however make one suggestion ?? The branch insignia for naval police, the arms mate is used in my navy for divers, perhaps you can replace it by the P insignia of naval police, if you need an pic of it let me know and i will mail it to you. By all means and marvelous thread worth folowwing and where do i enlist An original combination of insignia of the Royal Navy and the Belgian Zeemacht bravo zulu

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Zephyr [ February 22nd, 2012, 6:10 am ]

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Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor

schepper911 wrote:

Its great to see that you use the Belgian Navy branch insignia, in my case i am an gunners mate and i wear the (in your navy the ordnance branch insignia) in my navy i can also use the gunners branch insignia, i don't want to nitpick just thinking out loud. May i however make one suggestion ?? The branch insignia for naval police, the arms mate is used in my navy for divers, perhaps you can replace it by the P insignia of naval police, if you need an pic of it let me know and i will mail it to you. By all means and marvelous thread worth folowwing and where do i enlist

An original combination of insignia of the Royal Navy and the Belgian Zeemacht bravo zulu

Thanks. I think the Belgian insignia is some of the best looking, so how could I not want to use it. I kinda like the anchor and trident insignia and wanted to use it someplace, and my divers already had the " dive helmet" insignia. I suppose I could add a P on there for the arms mate. If you have a pic available, yes, definately shoot me a PM with it.

Author:	Zephyr [ March 2nd, 2012, 8:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Kingdom of Grays Harbor
MISSILE CRUISER - MARS CLASS The Mars Class was first developed in the mid 1970's. The initial design was for a primary anti-air armament with twin launchers fore and aft and secondary ASuW missiles and light guns armament. The name ship of the class, HMS Mars, was laid down in 1977 and commissioned in 1980. The 7th ship of the class, HMS Minerva, was the first to receive the new VLS launch system and began the Group 2 series. The mid 80's doctrinal shift saw the role of RN cruisers change from a primary AA role to that of surface combatant, with a corresponding shift in missile load out to SSM heavy with SAM and ASROC for local defense. General Characteristics: (Groups 1 and 2) Displacement: 13,095 tons Length: 609' / 185.6 m Beam: 69' / 21 m Draught: 27.5' / 8.4 m Machinery: 4 x G2700 Gas Turbines; 2 screws Speed: 33 knots Complement: 410 GROUP 1A Mars (1980) {to North Justorica 2004, name retained} Saturn (1981) {to New Kandor 1996, renamed Vancouver} Athena (1981) {to Salish Confederacy 2001, renamed Kweyechun} Artemis (1982) { to New Kandor 1996, renamed Ksanti} Armament: 2 x Mark 26 twin arm launcher with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C) and SeaTiger (ASROC) 2 x 4.5" guns 4 x Tarantula (SAAB RB-08) Missiles (2 x 2) 3 x 20mm CIWS 1 x 8-Cell SeaSpike 2 x Stringray TT (Mark 32 SVTT) GROUP 1B Heracles (1983) {to Amandaea 2002, name retained} Diana (1984) {to New Kandor 1996, renamed Lowell Bay} (Built in Aldeshar) Orpheus (1983) Armament: 2 x Mark 26 twin arm launcher with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C) and SeaTiger (ASROC) 2 x 4.5" guns 8 x Scorpion Mk III (SAAB RB-15 Mk 3) Missiles (4 x 2) 3 x 20mm CIWS 1 x 8-Cell SeaSpike 2 x Stringray TT (Mark 32 SVTT) The Group 1A ships had their Tarantula launchers removed and replaced with Scorpion launchers in 1986-90. All 6 Group 1 ships were retired early and transferred to various Dominion navies owing to the lack of VLS on them. There has been some discussion of refitting them all with VLS systems, but it is currently being debated for cost effectiveness of doing this vs construction of newer cruisers. GROUP 1B-BR EXPORT General Characteristics: Displacement: 13,750 tons Length: 609' / 185.6 m Beam: 69' / 21 m Draught: 27.5' / 8.4 m Machinery: 4 x G2700 Gas Turbines; 2 screws Speed: 33 knots Complement: 448 Armament: 2 x Mark 26 twin arm launcher with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C) and SeaTiger (ASROC) 4 x 6"/53 DP guns (2 x 2) 8 x Scorpion Mk III (SAAB RB-15 Mk 3) SSM (4 x 2) 2 x Moray ASW TT (Mark 32 SVTT) 1 x SeaTiger (ASROC) Launcher 1 x SeaDragon BPDMS 3 x 20mm CIWS 4 x Chaff Launcher Aviation: 2 x LAMPS ASW Helicopter Export version of the Mars Class, Group 1B. Contracted by the Brightenburg Navy in 1983, four ships were laid down in this modified export version in 1984-5, with commissioning of the first pair in 1988 and the second pair in 1989. At the request of the Brightenburg Navy, the forward Mk 26 was moved to position main #4, with position main #2 being taken by a superfiring twin 6"/53 DP gun turret. Main #1 was also replaced with a twin 6"/53. An 8-cell SeaTiger launcher was also added foreward of the superstructure, with reload station added to the fore section of the superstructure as well, with a capacity for up to 16 reloads being carried. SeaTiger capability was retained for the Mk 26 in Position Main #3. GROUP 2A Minerva (1984) Juno (1985) Hermes (1985) Vesta (1986) (Built in Aldeshar) Oracle (1986) Armament: 2 x 61-cell Mark 41 VLS with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C), SeaTiger (ASROC) and Tsunami (Tomahawk) 2 x 4.5" guns 8 x Scorpion Mk III (SAAB RB-15 Mk 3) Missiles (4 x 2) 3 x 20mm CIWS 1 x 8-Cell SeaSpike 2 x Stringray TT (Mark 32 SVTT) GROUP 2B Group 2B had their seperate Scorpion launchers deleted from the design as the newer Scorpion Mk V VLS capable missile was available. They also had their VLS increased from 61-cell to 64-cell by the removal of the loading crane, which had proven itself rather useless in practice. 2B was the largest single group of the Mars Class. Ceres (1986) Doris (1987) Orion (1987) (Renamed Paul Emil II - 2005) Myrmidon (1988) Cronus (1989) Cassandra (1989) Rhea (1990) Diomede (1990) Argonaut (1991) Icarus (1991) Tyr (1992) Gwydion (1993) Neptune (1993) Agrona (1994) Thor (1995) (Built in Aldeshar) Hades (1992) (Built in New Kandor) Zathras (1987) Delenn (1989) Molari (1991) Zhekhar (1993) Armament: 2 x 64-cell Mark 41 VLS with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C), SeaTiger (ASROC), Scorpion Mk V (SAAB RB-15) and Tsunami (Tomahawk) 2 x 4.5" guns 3 x 20mm CIWS 1 x 8-Cell SeaSpike 2 x Stringray TT (Mark 32 SVTT) GROUP 2C Group 2C is comprised of a single ship and is widely regarded as the transition between groups 2 and 3. Essentially the same to the 2B ships, the only difference being the flight deck was slightly lengthened by squaring off the end of the platform instead of having it angled inwards, and the aft mark 41 was moved further aft to accomodate this. Tamesis (1995) Armament same as Group 2B GROUP 3 Group 3 ships were lengthened by 20 feet in the stern to accomodate the new turret in the X position. They were also the first to receive the new Mod 1 4.5" turret. Three further un-named cruisers were cancelled in 1998 prior to being laid down in favor of the next class of ship, the St Edward Class. They are, so far, the only ships to receive the twin 6" turrets. Poseiden (1998) Taliesen (1999) Ares (2000) General Characteristics: (Group 3) Displacement: 14,850tons Length: 629' / 191.7 m Beam: 69' / 21 m Draught: 27.5' / 8.4 m Machinery: 4 x G2700 Gas Turbines; 2 screws Speed: 31 knots Complement: 435 Armament: 2 x 64-cell Mark 41 VLS with SeaDragon Mk IV (RIM-66C), SeaTiger (ASROC), Scorpion Mk V (SAAB RB-15) and Tsunami (Tomahawk) 1 x 4.5" gun 2 x 6" guns (2 x 1) 3 x 20mm CIWS 1 x 8-Cell SeaSpike 2 x Stringray TT (Mark 32 SVTT) All Group 2 and 3 ships have, since 2003, had the Scorpion missiles replaced with the newer Viper (NSM) missile. Newer marks of the SeaDragon have also been loaded as they become avialable. RETURN TO TABLE OF CONTENTS

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