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Author:  stan hyd [ May 13th, 2011, 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Great Britain - AU
Please bear with me, this is my very first attempt at anything more one ship at a time.

Firstly the back story - as it is in my mind I would welcome some help to make it a bit more believable.

May 1st 1979. The East German reistence group Action 19 newley formed with the aim of reuniting Germany through force, planned its first attack. The mission centred on the killing of a KGB Captain by the name of Aloyna (meaning Light) on his way to start his new posting in a small town east of Berlin called Wemeuchen.

As the trucks with passed by on the road to Wemeuchen in the dead of night, explosives ripped through the 3 vehicles killing all in side them. As the Action 19 fighters converged on the vehicles they found no evidence of the KGB Captain, in an attempt to buy more time the 3 vehicles were pushed into the river that ran along side the road. Leaving the scene as quickly as they could, they melted into the country side.

This is what we have learned from evidence provided by Russia after the outbreak. The vehicles were carrying two viles of Russian Ebola-C a new Biopreparat centre creation. The weapon designed to targeted enemy water systems, the results can be seen in the map below. Much of Western Europe fell to the plague.

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This is my Great Britain since 1979. Since the day Europe fell silent.


Armed Forces of Great Britain

The current forces of the Malpusian MoD are as follows:
Navy:
2 CVNF ( On order)
2 CVS (to be replaced 2014-2020)
1 LPH
12 Destroyers
29 Frigates (split between Liverpool and Duke Class)
20 Blood Class Quarantine maintainment vessels
4 Wave Class tankers
2 Leaf Class Support tankers (due to be replaced in 2014)
4 Victoria Class replenishment oilers
3 Bay Class ( 4 built - one sold to Australia in 2006)
4 Point Class Sea Lift Ships
7 Trafalgar Class SSN (Due to retire 2018)
4 Astute ( 3 additional Astute due by 2014 follow on of 4 expected 2012)

Naval Air Arm:
60 F/A-18F Super Hornet
60 F-35C (On order)
47 Sea Harrier FA2
9 E-2 (on order, due 2011)
5 C-2 ( on order, due 2012)
24 Seahawk (18 more on order)
30 Super Lynx
22 Sea King (being drawn down)
28 Nimrod MR2 (to be retired from service 2014)
18 P-8 Poseidon (On order due to start delivery in 2013)

Marines:
12,000 Men
( After the Virus set in the Marines numbers were increased including a new Hazmat team - tasked with entering quarantine zone when required)

Coast Guard
12 Cutters

Airforce:
102 F-35C (on order due from 2012 follow on order of 80 tbc)
88 F/A-18A/B Hornet ( due to retire 2016)
80 GR9 Harriers (due to retire 2012)
60 Hawk
30 T-6 Texan II
10 TAV-8B Harrier
22 Black Hawk
8 C-17
12 Tri star airial refuelers (due to retire 2015)
28 Hercules C5 (C-130J)
12 Boeing E-767 (ordered in 1994)
12 Boeing 767 refuelers (ordered 2009)
16 Predator Drones (on use over Quarantine zone)
10 Reaper Drones (strike missions over Quarantine zone)

Army:
108,000 Men
20,000 TA
350 Challenger II
400 FV510 Warrior upgraded in 2005
200 Supacat "Jackal" MWMIK
500 Land Rover Snatch
44 Chinook
64 Black Hawk
48 AH-64
Author:  stan hyd [ May 13th, 2011, 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
Fighter Aircraft of Great Britain - As of 2010

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Author:  stan hyd [ May 13th, 2011, 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
Blood Class - Designed in 2001 to replace the Island Class - One of the most active classes of the RN 20 Produced 12 serving in the Home Fleet - Patrol channel to protect from UK from Infected Refugees (UK now operates a 1 warning, shoot to kill on all ships who are unable to produce AMA (Atlantic Mitary Alliance) travel confirmation. Further 8 operate out of Malta.

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Daring Class - designed from 1995 VT began to deliver from 2000 - Specifically designed to fit in with USN battle Groups.
12 ordered to replace the 11 Type 42 in service ( 1 lost to the Outbreak when crew members were lost to virus at Toulon)

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Jersey Class - Designed by VT in 1980 To replace the Type 21. Designed from the outset to be cheap to produce and operate. 15 Produced between 1982 an 1987.
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Duke Class - Already being talked about in 1979 as the future ASW project, the Duke Class was designed to replace the Leander Class Frigate. It was the 2nd Class to be redesigned to incorporate US designed Weapon systems. 14 delivered to RN between 1987 and 1996
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Invincible Class

Laid down in 1974 The 3 ships of the Invincible class, were refitted at Virginia Shipyards between 1986 and 1992 to incorporate US weapon systems. HMS Invincible was retired in 2006 and used for spares to keep the other 2 at sea. HMS Ark Royal is due to retire in 2012 and HMS Illustrious is set to retire in 2014.

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Wave Class

Proposed by VT in 1995 - The Wave Class was proposed to replace the Ol-class tanker, although originally thought to be an order for 2 ships, Australia signaled it's interest in 1996 and odered 2, giving the Royal Navy time to order number 3 and 4.

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reserved
Author:  Mitchell van Os [ May 13th, 2011, 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
Fallout you mean i quess?

Nuclear fallout is a restricted area (such as chernobyl).

Mitch ;)
Author:  HMS Sophia [ May 13th, 2011, 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
It's actually reasonable, if 4 missiles exploded and were at ground level... Assuming the winds are going that way...
When the nuke goes off at ground level, it digs a massive crater, and everything that came out of the crater is blown into the air as radioactive dust (fallout). This can travel a massive distance, so your map is good (if that happens)
However, there are a lot of safeties so that nukes don't go off accidentally, ever. You can famously shoot them, burn them and drop them, and nothing happens....
Well, i suppose what you could have happen is an accident that results in the detonations of the conventional explosives. This would spread a lot of radioactive materials across a relatively big area. However it wouldn't be as big as what you have there....
Author:  Mitchell van Os [ May 13th, 2011, 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
Indeed. Missiles have safeties, they are unarmed when not used.
Arming nuclear missiles need's a password (i quess russian missiles to)
Arming Harpoons for other vision, needs a key to be activated.
Author:  HMS Sophia [ May 13th, 2011, 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
If you are looking for realism, your best bet is the conventional explosives going off. Maybe a NATO spec. ops mission gone bad? or something like that...
Author:  stan hyd [ May 13th, 2011, 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
so what we are saying is that if a large explosion happened - non nuclear it could possible trigger the nukes as they were being transported?
Author:  TimothyC [ May 13th, 2011, 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
stan hyd wrote:
so what we are saying is that if a large explosion happened - non nuclear it could possible trigger the nukes as they were being transported?
No.
  1. Nuclear devices do not explode.
    • They initiate
  2. Nuclear devices are temperamental, fragile things.
  3. To initiate and implosion device has to have the explosives go off in a precisely timed manner.
  4. Any deviation from the planned manner results in no nuclear event, or a very low yield fizzle (sub 1kt) at worst.
  5. Four devices of less than 500kt each wouldn't generate a plume that looks like that at all.
  6. The Plume you have there is wrong.
    • Plumes are widest closest to the event and narrow as the further down-wind from the event you are.
    • Exact shape of the plume depends on the Weather conditions at the time of the event.
    • A Book titled The Effects of Nuclear Weapons is a good place to start.
      • If you can find it, the 1962 edition is the best, and most accurate.
Author:  HMS Sophia [ May 13th, 2011, 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Great Britain - AU
stan hyd wrote:
so what we are saying is that if a large explosion happened - non nuclear it could possible trigger the nukes as they were being transported?
It will not trigger the nuke, but it may set of the explosives that are used to initiate a nuclear device. It's not much, but it's enough to spread the radioactive's over a good area.
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