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Author:  rbz88 [ January 2nd, 2023, 4:05 am ]
Post subject:  Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

A fictional Maritime Self-Defense Force frigate in the Theater version 3. It is a fictional type of ship, which carries labor that can operate in water. It is used as a mothership. However, it can also operate as a regular frigate.

The labor takes off by sliding it backward from the rear of the ship. In addition, it is available to operate a helicopter. The upper part of the labor's takeoff area is equipped with a helicopter hangar and a helicopter deck for takeoff and landing.
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https://imgur.com/a/ZsyEKXk

Author:  TNGShM [ January 2nd, 2023, 6:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

rbz88 wrote: *
A fictional Maritime Self-Defense Force frigate in the Theater version 3. It is a fictional type of ship, which carries labor that can operate in water. It is used as a mothership. However, it can also operate as a regular frigate.

The labor takes off by sliding it backward from the rear of the ship. In addition, it is available to operate a helicopter. The upper part of the labor's takeoff area is equipped with a helicopter hangar and a helicopter deck for takeoff and landing.
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The image isn't showing up for me. Maybe try using imgur as your image source.

Author:  rbz88 [ January 2nd, 2023, 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

TNGShM wrote: *
rbz88 wrote: *
A fictional Maritime Self-Defense Force frigate in the Theater version 3. It is a fictional type of ship, which carries labor that can operate in water. It is used as a mothership. However, it can also operate as a regular frigate.

The labor takes off by sliding it backward from the rear of the ship. In addition, it is available to operate a helicopter. The upper part of the labor's takeoff area is equipped with a helicopter hangar and a helicopter deck for takeoff and landing.
[ img ]
The image isn't showing up for me. Maybe try using imgur as your image source.
I add the link. Can you see it now? I have no idea why this can happen.
https://imgur.com/a/ZsyEKXk
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Author:  TNGShM [ January 2nd, 2023, 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

rbz88 wrote: *
I add the link. Can you see it now? I have no idea why this can happen.
https://imgur.com/a/ZsyEKXk
I can see the image through the link you gave but not in the forum. If you right click on the image in imgur and select copy image address, I think it should show up. It should look like this when you're editing (parentheses replaced with brackets of course):

(img)image address(/img)

Author:  heuhen [ January 2nd, 2023, 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

labor (labour) is a worker, people that work, but if you go after the marxist political concept, labor (labour) is an instruments of labor.

I think you are referring to a crane.


Now for the ship it self. I am not going to comment to much, because there isn't much wrong with it, just some minor things, like:

- Using the old style for underwater coloring and shading (it's not wrong, but if you want to make it just a little better, then you can) (check the archive for ideas at www.shipbucket.com)
- The propeller is an very old propeller and is almost banned, due to how bad it is! (check other ships in the archive for better propellers)
- You are using some old parts, there are newer and better parts in the shipbucket wikipedia page (http://shipbucket.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
- you have not enough lifte raft, what you have is looking like 15 man life rafts. Look at other ship in the archive.
- you lack mooring gears.
- I'm doubtful about the feasibility of the crane on the hangar roof and if the ship can handle that big crane up there. (Remember you are lifting several tons with that crane, and that will move the ship center of gravity, making it unstable and at risk of capsizing) Another thing is that I doubt a light weight structure, can handle the pressure from a crane.
- You can work a little more with shading.
- the bow sonar is from the old time, nowadays we try to be a bit more accurate with shapes.

A few example of how things can be done, if you want to spend that extra time:
Hatsuyuki class:
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/5134/file

Shirane class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/7914/file

Tachikaze class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/7926/file

British Type 23 - Duke class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/5509/file

Author:  acelanceloet [ January 2nd, 2023, 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

Heuhen, a labor is a mech in the Patlabor universe ;)

Author:  rbz88 [ January 2nd, 2023, 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frigate DDL-181 in Patlabor

heuhen wrote: *
labor (labour) is a worker, people that work, but if you go after the marxist political concept, labor (labour) is an instruments of labor.

I think you are referring to a crane.


Now for the ship it self. I am not going to comment to much, because there isn't much wrong with it, just some minor things, like:

- Using the old style for underwater coloring and shading (it's not wrong, but if you want to make it just a little better, then you can) (check the archive for ideas at www.shipbucket.com)
- The propeller is an very old propeller and is almost banned, due to how bad it is! (check other ships in the archive for better propellers)
- You are using some old parts, there are newer and better parts in the shipbucket wikipedia page (http://shipbucket.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
- you have not enough lifte raft, what you have is looking like 15 man life rafts. Look at other ship in the archive.
- you lack mooring gears.
- I'm doubtful about the feasibility of the crane on the hangar roof and if the ship can handle that big crane up there. (Remember you are lifting several tons with that crane, and that will move the ship center of gravity, making it unstable and at risk of capsizing) Another thing is that I doubt a light weight structure, can handle the pressure from a crane.
- You can work a little more with shading.
- the bow sonar is from the old time, nowadays we try to be a bit more accurate with shapes.

A few example of how things can be done, if you want to spend that extra time:
Hatsuyuki class:
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/5134/file

Shirane class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/7914/file

Tachikaze class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/7926/file

British Type 23 - Duke class
http://shipbucket.com/drawings/5509/file

Really appreciate for the suggestions on the details. I hardly thought about these things before. It is my mistake. However, the crane coms from the original design in the movie. I cannot easily change the design. By the way, a 'labor' is a mecha in Patlabor.

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