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Bombhead
Post subject: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 11th, 2011, 8:44 pm
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These are some of the most good looking and plausible AU ships on SB.Nice one Heuhen.


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Post subject: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 11th, 2011, 9:36 pm
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Bombhead wrote:
These are some of the most good looking and plausible AU ships on SB.Nice one Heuhen.
Thanks "Bombhead"!

next class build for Haram was the "Admiral Smith class" cruiser.

These ships were built on the same rules as "JAG class": Large, exaggerated armament and sturdy.
They were equipped with powerful radars and good communication systems. It was found that the "JAG class" was too slow with its 25/27 knots, so "Admiral Smith class" got more powerfull machines. Mostly they went in escorting aircraft carriers, but they were also built to provide artillery support. When not escorting an aircraft carrier, these cruisers went together with two destroyer, two to five frigates and one support ship. sometimes they had one submarine hanging around.

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Name: Admiral Smith-class guided missile cruiser (ASW,AAW,ASuW)
Operators: Royal Haram Navy
Preceded by: JAG-class-guided missile cruiser (ASW,AAW,ASuW)
Succeeded by: Royal-class guided missile cruiser
Planned: 50
Completed: 61
Active: 50
Lost: 1
Reserve: 10
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General characteristics
Type: cruiser
Displacement: Fully loaded:
• Flight I: 10,024 t
• Flight II: 10,400 t
• Flight III: 11,120 t

Length:
• 614 ft (186 m) (Flights I and II)
• 640 ft (193 m) (Flight III)
Beam:
• 73 ft (22 m)
Draft:
• 35.5 ft (10.71 m)

Propulsion: 4 gas turbines each generating 35,000 shp;
coupled to two shafts, each driving a five-bladed reversible controllable pitch propeller;
Total output: 140,000 shp.
Speed: In excess of 33 kn (61.6 km/h; 38.5 mph)
Range: 4,400 nmi (8,100 km) at 21 kn (39 km/h; 24.3 mph)

Boats and landing
craft carried: 2 Rigid hull inflatable boats

Complement:
• Flight I: 28 officers, 395 enlisted
• Flight II: 28 officers, 375 enlisted
• Flight II: 31 officers, 395 enlisted

Armament:
•2 * Mk 41 vertical launch system
  • • BGM-109 Tomahawk
  • • RIM-66M Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)
  • • RIM-156 Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)
  • • RIM-161 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for Aegis BMD
  • • RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
  • • RIM-162 ESSM SAM
2 * quad and 2 twin RGM-84 Harpoon SSM
4 * Penguine (for short range anti ship defence)
3 * 127 mm/54(5 inch) (lightweight gun) (canon "B" can be replaced by a 76mm cannon)
2+5 * 20 mm
6 * 12.7 mm
2 * Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes)
depth charges.
can be equipped with mines.

Aircraft carried:
2 * Naval Lynx Mk-80 (Mk-91 on later)
Aviation facilities:
enclosed hangar for up to three Naval Lynx or two MH-60R Seahawk helicopters

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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 12th, 2011, 3:59 pm
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Hm! wonder how her top view will look like? shall, shall not, ...


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Portsmouth Bill
Post subject: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 12th, 2011, 6:54 pm
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Well, Bombhead got there first, and I'm glad to second his opinion; and notwithstanding some points of diference, this is such a damn good AU to follow; the drawings are a delight :)


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heuhen
Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:12 pm
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Thanks Portsmouth Bill.

I find it actually easier to draw an AU ship, than a ship of the real world. As long as one remember to put in details. And not rush it, I used 5 / 6 hours on the last boat.


Updated Admiral Smith-class with a top wiew, Will finish it in the next few days!

Next cruiser to draw is Royal-class guided missile cruiser, when I am finish with that one, I will do Destroyers.


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Post subject: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 12th, 2011, 11:27 pm
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Royal class is kind of a sub-class to Admiral Smith class, but it is a completely different type of ship. Bigger, faster, better range, more crew, bigger weapons pack.

The ships were built as a ship that sailed either alone or in a task group of three / four ships. armed to the teeth, and a large crew to ensure that the ship had endurance and could respond to most situations with "Interest". They operated almost never with aircraft carriers.


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Name: Royal class nuclear guided missile cruiser
Operators: Royal Haram Navy
Preceded by: Admiral Smith-class-guided missile cruiser
Succeeded by: CXXX
Planned: 15
Completed: 10
Active: 9
Lost: 0
Reserve: 1
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General characteristics
Type: nuclear cruiser
Displacement: Fully loaded:
• Flight I: 10,915 t
• Flight II: 12,103 t

Length:
• 620,5 ft (188 m) (Flights I)
• 653 ft (198 m) (Flight II)
Beam:
• 82 ft (25 m)
Draft:
• 35.5 ft (10.71 m)

Propulsion: nuclear;
coupled to three shafts, each driving a five-bladed reversible controllable pitch propeller;
Total output: 193,000 shp.
Speed: In excess of 36 kn (61.6 km/h; 38.5 mph)
Range: unlimited (15/20 years, nuclear)

Boats and landing
craft carried: 3 Rigid hull inflatable boats. 1 * large, 2 * small.

Complement:
• Flight I: 28 officers, 420 enlisted
• Flight II: 28 officers, 405 enlisted
• Flight II: 35 officers, 450 enlisted

Armament:
•2 * Mk 41 vertical launch system 64 cell and 3 * Mk 41 vertical launch system 8 cell for ESSM.
  • • BGM-109 Tomahawk
  • • RIM-66M Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)
  • • RIM-156 Standard medium range SAM (has an ASuW mode)
  • • RIM-161 Standard Ballistic missile defense missile for Aegis BMD
  • • RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC
  • • RIM-162 ESSM SAM2
2 * quad launchers for NSM
2 * quad mk-49 decoy
1 * 155 mm (lightweight gun)
1 * 127 mm/54(5 inch) (lightweight gun)
1 * 40 mm twin Dardo stealth
1 * Goalkeeper or MK 49 RAM
2+5 * 20 mm
6 * 12.7 mm
2 * Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes (six Mk-46 or Mk-50 torpedoes)
depth charges.
can be equipped with mines.

Aircraft carried:
2 * NH90
Aviation facilities:
enclosed hangar for up to two NH90 or three Naval Lynx helicopters


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Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 13th, 2011, 12:03 am
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Offset helipad? You really hate your pilots don't you?

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Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 13th, 2011, 1:53 am
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Thiel wrote:
Offset helipad? You really hate your pilots don't you?
yes!

shall try to find a better place to the ESSM launcher, but I do not want it to high as it can destroy the ship's center of gravity.


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Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 13th, 2011, 8:28 pm
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So what does that rear launcher hold? Why can't you just quad-pack into there. I'm sure you're not using all 64 cells for bigger SAMs and SSMs? You could probably get away with an 8 cell either side of a helipad if they were worked into the superstructure of the helicopter deck if you get what I mean, that way there's more symmetry.

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Post subject: Re: Re: kingdom of HaramPosted: November 13th, 2011, 9:11 pm
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Blackbuck wrote:
So what does that rear launcher hold? Why can't you just quad-pack into there. I'm sure you're not using all 64 cells for bigger SAMs and SSMs? You could probably get away with an 8 cell either side of a helipad if they were worked into the superstructure of the helicopter deck if you get what I mean, that way there's more symmetry.
Originally I thought that she would be one of those ships that operate alone, but I'm not so sure about that right now.

the big 64 cell keeps all the ordinary missiles while the 8 cell has ESSM, the idea was that they would act as a fast system that can shoot regardless of whether any of the other systems are busy or not. ESSM was a way to have somehow got a new sensor package similar to the NSM, but I think it will be too expensive and advanced for its small task. But you know how it works: first you get an idea, then tries to find why it does not work!


But I can have them built into the helicopter deck, it should not interfere with the ship's center of gravity too much.


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