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The Centennial AU
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Author:  Trojan [ July 18th, 2012, 12:38 am ]
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I really like these designs but like Novice said the 3in. and 4in. really overlap in role and I realize that you explained it for your Sharpshooter class but I don't believe anybody used both guns on the same ship at the same time ever in regular practice and I think theres a good reason for that like I said
just my opinion, don't have to agree or take it
also for the sharpshooter class any thoughts on maybe a general purpose version armed with 5in. or 4.5in.
Author:  SrGopher [ July 18th, 2012, 2:50 am ]
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Actually Trojan, I do have plans for a variation with single 5" guns (Early war) and twin 5" guns (Late war). I also have similar plans for the Sniper class. Thank you for both for your inputs!
Author:  Trojan [ July 18th, 2012, 7:10 am ]
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my pleasure glad it was well received and looking forward to your future work
Author:  SrGopher [ July 20th, 2012, 1:32 pm ]
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And here is more from the USP's Fleet:

The Revenue Cutter Service was directly based off of the task of the United States of America's original Coast Guard, the Revenue Cutter Service. It was formed as a coastal patrol service, and their role was harbor patrol and intercepting suspicious craft. It was a subdivision of the Green Water Flotilla, which itself was designed as the defensive and submarine force of the Pacifican Navy. The Cutter Service was essentially the operational equivalent of the United States' new Coast Guard, which was formed soon after the Pacifican Revenue Cutter Service. The Cutter fleet was comprised of old, but fast ex-frontline combatants. USP shipbuilding was at its infancy during the days after WWI, in which the Royal Navy was selling and scrapping many of its smaller vessels. This lead to the acquisition of 16 of the Town class, or the ex-River/E-Class destroyers. Being as old as they were, they were refitted with a new propulsion system, along with a redesigned rudder, screws, and two trunked funnels. The armament remained unchanged during their service life (save for the torpedoes, which were removed immediately), until 1937, when the ship received a fully enclosed bridge, modifications to reduce wetness, as well as a 20mm cannon, a 40mm cannon, and a single USP-designed 3"/50. 2 .50 caliber HMGs and 4 .30 HMGs were stored in lockers for mounting at various points on the ship, as were enough small arms and ammo for a detachment of 10 Pacifican Marines that are stationed on the ship. Through the war, the elderly ships continued to form the backbone of the Revenue Cutter Service, even though they were overshadowed by newer vessels.
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Author:  ezgo394 [ July 20th, 2012, 1:39 pm ]
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Nice little ship. It's got a good amount of detail and isn't overloaded with armament. Well done!

-EZ-
Author:  eswube [ July 20th, 2012, 6:26 pm ]
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Very nice little ship. :)
I just have small doubts about the screws (maybe just a tiny bit smaller?).
Also - but that's purely visual - I'd raise a forward funnel a 2-3 pixels, because it looks (due to optical illusion) like it was shorter that the second funnel and it gives a bit odd impression in my eyes.
But generally I like the ship very much!
Author:  SrGopher [ July 21st, 2012, 12:28 am ]
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Updated Town class with modifications pointed out:
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Now this is one that I'm not so sure about.....
The post-WWI USP Navy saw the acquisition of many second-hand vessels. Within a decade however, 9 of the Hunter and Predator class (ex-USN Smith and Paulding class respectively) destroyers were refitted and transferred to the Green Water Flotilla, replaced with 8 slightly newer ex-US Navy Clemson class destroyers. The USPS San Fernando was updated in early 1933 in Britain, serving as the testbed for the program designed to modernize the Pacifican Navy with a fleet of destroyers and escorts over the next decade.The ship, which had previously kept its original armament, was fitted with a single set of quintuple torpedo tubes in place of the 4 mounts with each 3 torpedoes. It was also fitted with two single 40mm and two 20mm cannons. The main armament was a pair of single DP 4" cannons on the bow and stern, as well as a single, dedicated USP-designed 3" AA cannon amidships. Depth charges provided some ASW capability. A modification was made to the stern in an attempt to provide increased clearance for the rudder and screws from the depth charges falling off of the rails. By late 1934, all of the ships in the class were fitted in the same fashion. They proved to be better-equipped compared to their USN counterparts, and were considered to be a successful update on the limited hull of the original design. They were stationed in the Atlantic in the early years of the war on Neutrality Patrol. During the USP's active involvement in the war, they served as front-line units for a few years, before being relegated to escort duty, where they served out the rest of the war.

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Author:  Thiel [ July 21st, 2012, 5:58 am ]
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Again, if you have 4in DPs then the 3in is redundant. It's also too early for the Bofors (It's called the M1936 for a reason) and if I'm not mistaken for the Oerlikon as well.
Author:  Trojan [ July 21st, 2012, 6:30 am ]
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Thiel I agree with you but Oerlikon IIRC was invented in 1919
Author:  Thiel [ July 21st, 2012, 6:47 am ]
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Trojan wrote:
Thiel I agree with you but Oerlikon IIRC was invented in 1919
You're twenty years early. The design dates back to 1934, but the hun that saw service during WWII wasn't designed until 1939.

Edit: As bo additional note, the Bofors didn't enter service in Britain until 1941.
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