Is that some Littorio/UP-41 influence I see?
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| Author: | eltf177 [ September 4th, 2014, 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
Is that some Littorio/UP-41 influence I see?
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| Author: | JSB [ September 4th, 2014, 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
Nice destroyer, like the mounts but will the torps fit ? not sure side by side with 10 (5 +5) tubes will work on a DD. JSB |
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ September 4th, 2014, 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
They wont and to be fair a single centreline quintuple mount would suffice maybe even a quadruple set like most other destroyers. |
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| Author: | KIKE92 [ September 4th, 2014, 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
Thanks for the comments everyone, i have made some mdifications to the destroyer and here it is: ![[ img ]](http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/KIKE-92/media/United%20States%20of%20Venezuela/DD-CumanaacuteClass_zpse7efc50d.png.html) I have changed the quintuple torpedo launchers for quadruple launchers and taking into account that this ship is wider then the Fletcher class, i think it could fit quadruple launchers on the sides. Ofcourse any suggestions are welcomed. @Eltf177 : you almost got me, it is actually based on the never built BC OTO Project 26500t 1930 |
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ September 4th, 2014, 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
The limiting factor of having side-firing tubes is you get a limited broadside. You'll have to to turn back on yourself to fire the second bank of tubes whereas with centreline tubes you can fire one, the other or both banks if required. So my point stands. A quintuple or quadruple amidships on the centreline would be perfectly fine. Though if you really need to ship lots of torpedoes you could go for a twin turret setup making space for another set of tubes. |
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| Author: | KIKE92 [ September 4th, 2014, 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
Carabobo Class Destroyer ![[ img ]](http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/KIKE-92/media/United%20States%20of%20Venezuela/DD-CaraboboClass_zps6d358a41.png.html) The Carabobo Class Destroyers were a class of Venezuelan Navy destroyers. The original purpose of these large Venezuelan destroyers, was to operate with battleship and cruiser forces, although they were not restricted to this. Being around 300 tons heavier than the usual destroyers and carrying eight guns in twin turrets rather than five guns in single open mounts. With their eight 5 in guns and torpedos they approached a light cruiser in firepower. Class overview: Name: Carabobo - class destroyer Built: 1932 to 1942 In commission: 1936 to 1973 Completed: 44 Lost: 0 General characteristics: Type: Large Destroyer Displacement: 3,000 tons (standard) 4,200 tons (full load) Length: 138.48 m Beam: 13.0 m Draft: 5.3 m Propulsion: 94,000 shp ; 4 oil-fired boilers; 2 geared steam turbines; 2 screws Speed: 40 knots Range: 5,800 miles at 15 knots Complement: 350 Armament: 8 × 5 inch (127 mm) guns 10 × 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes 2 × depth charge racks |
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ September 4th, 2014, 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
That is again one hell of a destroyer, though with 94,000SHP you should be able to make somewhat more than 37 kts. Le Fantasque made well over 40 before her refit... |
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| Author: | KIKE92 [ September 4th, 2014, 6:35 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela | |
That is again one hell of a destroyer, though with 94,000SHP you should be able to make somewhat more than 37 kts. Le Fantasque made well over 40 before her refit...
How fast do think it could be? . 38 to 42 knots maybe
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| Author: | Blackbuck [ September 4th, 2014, 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
If I had to guess? I'd say somewhere around 39-40kts. Your ships are pretty much analogous to Mogador and her sisters which made 39ish knots on 92,000SHP. |
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| Author: | KIKE92 [ September 6th, 2014, 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: United States of Venezuela |
Modelo 1905 Bolt Action Rifle ![[ img ]](http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/KIKE-92/media/United%20States%20of%20Venezuela/Modelo1905_zpsd960c4cc.png.html) The Model 1905, is a Venezuelan clip-loaded, 5-round magazine fed, bolt-action service rifle used primarily during the first half of the 20th century. It was officially adopted as a Venezuelan military bolt-action rifle on 1905. Developed after a requirement from the Venezuelan Army for a bolt action rifle to replace the Mausers and other rifles that were in service. The requirement arose because of experience with older weapons in service especially with the Mauser. Even do it proved to be an effective firearm troops complained it was too heavy and cumbersome especially in jungle conditions. CAVIM responded to the requirement with a rifle based on the Mauser bolt action but with a redesigned stock, shorter barrel and upgraded sights, after a series of test it was adopted by the Venezuelan army. Type: Bolt-action rifle Place of origin: United States of Venezuela Production history: Designed: 1905 Manufacturer: CAVIM (augmented by several other makers) Produced: 1905–Present Number built: 25,255,330 Specifications: Weight: 3.8 kg (8.38 lb)depending on wood density Length: 1112,52 mm (43.8 in) Barrel length: 569,88 mm (22,44 in) Cartridge: 8mm Mauser Action: Bolt action Rate of fire: 10–15 rounds/min Muzzle velocity: 860 m/s (2,822 ft/s) Effective firing range: 914 m (1,000 yd) Feed system: 5-round stripper clip Sights: Flip-up rear sight, barleycorn-type front sight or Telescopic sights. |
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