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Outdated planes?

Ju 87 T-1 (a AU designation for C model or V-25 prototype?) was a only carrier dive bomber/torpedo plane Germans develop. One in 39 other in 41... in case of V-25 that plane was "brand new" for Kriegsmarine.
Fw 190 A-4 enter service in July 1942 it is a fresh from factory plane.

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Nobody expects the Imperial Inquisition!

drawing-wise, not technologically-wise I'd say.

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My Worklist
Sources and documentations are the most welcome.

-Koko Kyouwakoku (Republic of Koko)
-Koko's carrier-based aircrafts of WWII
-Koko Kaiun Yuso Kaisha - KoKaYu Line (Koko AU spinoff)
-Koko - Civil Aviation

Exactly, the technology isn’t outdated, it’s just the drawings themselves are a few years old

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- Solkriet - My Personal AU: http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... 14&t=10834
- America the Divided - Joint-Project between Minepagen and I http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewto ... =14&t=9855
- Occasionally the Random pop-ups of my Abyssinia or Hong Kong AUs

"The word Br*t?sh is a horrible term I never want to hear from you again, We do not tolerate that dehumanization".

Ultraking, thanks a lot for your very positive comments. I will take care of the aspects you mention, except one, but first an answer to your point regarding the screw (insn't propeller used only in airplanes?).

The screw, yes, I took it from another ship I draw (with more or less the power installed like this one) and that one I took from the part list here of Shipbucket. The shading (at least for me) is very difficult since I don't know the exact twist of the blades...

Now the plane issue: I don't know the part list you mention, I'll try to find out, but... as I said earlier the "navalized" versions of the two types I used are a bit different from the real ones used by Germany: The Ju-87 has a stronger engine fitted somewhere around 1.700hp mainly due to the much better avgas Germany gets in this scenario I am building up than it had in real WWII. This allows more boost from the part of the compressor and - cannot be seen here...- the airplanes of Germany (in this case, but not only) use inlet air intercoolers which increase also the power as we all know (or, to put it correctly before someone moans, intercoolers allow to extract more power out of the respective engines). And a revised Ju-87 (more streamlined in certain parts of the fuselage as well as the fairings of the main gear) with 1.700hp would have been much more effective than it was already... Since we are at it, "my Ju-87" take a 500kg bomb in the centre rack plus two 200kg ones on external wing attachment points or 2 x 200 liter fuel tanks to extend the range (important on naval use...).

Second, when "DKM Prinz Alfons" was commissioned, there were available updated versions of nearly all the planes Germany had but few new ones. A step I took from the future was the inclusion of the Focke-Wulf Fw-190 here, since in reality it didn't exist yet in 1940 at least in production. Here, I anticipated its service entry a year or so.

As for the portholes, what you say is new to me... I thought this kind of blue was mandatory...

Keep in touch mate, it's guys like you I'm searching for to do some healthy debates here. Thank you very much!

Hahahahaha... Man, your humor is corrosive!... You made my day, mate!...

Wow, this is indeed a lot of help on the part of you, guys! This is what one can call "positive criticism"! Thanks a real big lot for adressing so much attention to my work and for pinpointing one by one the parts needed to be corrected! But... not knowing the existence of newer airplane designs, I altered the two models I use on this ship! I altered the line of the canopies and the shape of the vertical fins' trailing edges. I even made the Fw 190 with a retractable rear landing wheel...

I make yours my words, but... the exit of the funnels are in line with the bridge. Now imagine the wind blowing from the starboard side... it would engulf the entire bridge with black smoke, no?...

And wasn't that drawing uploaded into the incorrect thread? Shouldn't have it been uploaded in the WWII aircraft carrier contest thread?

Sorry if this was already discussed, but putting a DP gun director atop a spindly lattice mast would not work for a number of reasons. The most intractable is that ships shake, rattle, flex, and roll, and if your director and your gun aren't speaking the same language about their coordinate system (that is, agree on a common X, Y, and Z), then your director will point at the target while your guns don't. This is obviously not a recipe for an effective weapons system.

The reason you can get away with locating a surface search or air search radar up there is that the required precision in bearing is much less--beamwidths at L-band or longer are frequently on the order of five or ten degrees. In nearly all cases, before engagement, a target will be handed off to and reacquired by a higher-precision system, which is ineffective for initial search but can rapidly find a target given a rough idea of where to look. In many (most?) period combat systems, handoff was directly from search to fire control; operating at lower wavelengths for historical reasons, the RN actually had an intermediate system, termed a "target indicator", that more narrowly refined the target track between search and fire control.

Obviously, modern systems have blurred the lines here.

I've thought of that, but I took the FuMO 231 Euklid 3D-stabilized. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_Radar.php

What I admittedly don't know is if that isn't too much weight up there... And, obviously, the timeline is not correct... I will include the change of location of that system in the general changes suggested by other members.

I followed your advice and found interesting drawings. But not of the main planes, they either were not yet made (full of japanese stuff, that thread...) or have been in the beginning and are now obscured by Photobuckiet.

I saved what I could and am making my own aircraft part sheet only for German planes. As work is progressing, I will share it for the community.