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Author: | odysseus1980 [ November 30th, 2016, 8:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Always any help is welcomed. After read that you wrote on Pre-Salamis thread, do you have any other sources for real Hellas military planning? Prefer send in my e-mail scanned documents or provide links here or by pm. Forgot to say that my free time is fairly limited. |
Author: | odysseus1980 [ January 8th, 2017, 3:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
After a lot time, post a WIP of a possible AU Revolt (1821) Brig. In reality, Ottoman Empire limited length of Hellenic built commercial ships to 30m. All however carried armament, due to the need of defense from pirates. The experience of battles with pirates gave significant experience. Also, Hellenic built brigs had very high masts with large sail area, making them very fast. Again, the reason was to be faster than pirate ships. But the high masts made the ship unstable and there are references that when sailing in strong wings these brigs were very close to stability limits. But in that time Hellene shipbuilders build ships without plans, only by trial and error. In my case, Hellas AU is a Russian protectorate during 1792-1828, so I believe that no limitation rule exist in ship size, meaning that larger ships would be built. This particular brig would be one of largest built. |
Author: | KonPtol [ January 8th, 2017, 9:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
At last! Hope to updating the thread in tactical basis. |
Author: | eswube [ January 10th, 2017, 10:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Nice. Looking forward to see more. |
Author: | odysseus1980 [ January 17th, 2017, 5:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
An update of my brig, with underwater hull. Any comments? |
Author: | RegiaMarina1939 [ January 17th, 2017, 8:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Very nice brig my friend! |
Author: | reytuerto [ January 17th, 2017, 8:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Congrats for your nice Brig, Odysseus! |
Author: | odysseus1980 [ January 25th, 2017, 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Second Brig, this is a similar type common also in East Med in 1800-1820 and earlier. |
Author: | reytuerto [ January 25th, 2017, 4:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Hi Odysseus: Both are nice brigs, but I like more the first one. Looks faster ! Cheers. |
Author: | odysseus1980 [ February 8th, 2017, 2:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hellenic Kingdom : Revisited |
Here is the source for second ship: http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/goleto ... polemikos/ http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/briki-i-vriki-i-paron/ First ship (Brig) http://greekshipmodels.com/portfolio_ca ... nastaseos/ Rest ships (real) of Hellenic Revolt. Unfortunately, English page does not work, so anyone who want to read the text needs to translate it by Google Translate. Please ask me freely if you do not understand something. As seen form the models, these sail ships had very tall masts with 4 sails in front mast, which I need to redesign. Would appreciate any help to drawing. |
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