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I'm thinking about mounting a second 6 inch up there... not sure. But yeah, I have dead space right now. I think I can change that though...
She has barely any details
And they're not technically AA guns, they are light anti-torpedo boat guns... but they'll get used as AA mounts eventually.

Why design a ship in Springsharp and then draw it out and then decide to make it smaller to cramp it up?
Doesn't make much design sense to me. Design a decent ship in SS first and then draw it. Decide what you want before you draw anything, else you just end up with a horrid mess and folks poking holes in it. Don't forget a larger ship has better seakeeping and will be more stable, a short ship is going to be cramped and wet, probably not much good for cruiser work when the weather gets tough.

Light anti-torpedo boat guns don't have high elevation for AA work. You'd need to change the mount in the future.

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It's the way I work with springsharp. I drew the base hull, deciding how long I wanted it. Then I put it into SS and decide other details. I'm more comfortable working that way...
Plus it doesn't matter. I decided to keep it more spacious.
Indeed they don't. Plus the 12 pounder isn't great for AA, so I'm thinking about inter-war refits to mount 2 or 3 pounders (has the 3 pounder been drawn?)

I like the cruiser but I think you have to move around some of the guns. The aft-most 4" guns (just below the 6") will suffer greatly from the blast of the 6" gun above. As mentioned earlier, you can put 2 4" just in front of the forcastle-break sided with the bridge.
You can also add torpedo tubes.
This can give you some inspiration (she was 446ft long overall)

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Major update. Its not complete yet, but here is what she looks like now. She has shrunk by 20 feet, and been totally mixed up..

Completed cruiser:

Shield class, GTC Light cruiser laid down 1906

Displacement:
2,793 t light; 2,918 t standard; 3,594 t normal; 4,136 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
389.00 ft / 389.00 ft x 42.00 ft x 14.00 ft (normal load)
118.57 m / 118.57 m x 12.80 m x 4.27 m

Armament:
3 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1906 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns in single mounts, 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 567 lbs / 257 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:

- Armour deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 15,101 shp / 11,265 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,218 tons

Complement:
231 - 301

Cost:
£0.297 million / $1.188 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 74 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 275 tons, 7.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armour Deck: 275 tons, 7.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 981 tons, 27.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,464 tons, 40.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 802 tons, 22.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4,163 lbs / 1,888 Kg = 38.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.32
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.41

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.26 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.52 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 80
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.00 ft / -1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Forecastle (33 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (38 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m (10.50 ft / 3.20 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (26 %): 10.50 ft / 3.20 m (17.50 ft / 5.33 m before break)
- Stern: 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Average freeboard: 14.61 ft / 4.45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141.8 %
Waterplane Area: 11,871 Square feet or 1,103 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 381 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.20
- Longitudinal: 1.95
- Overall: 1.26
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

I'm wondering if 1906 might be a little early for oil fuel instead of coal or a mix?

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Hmm... better?

Shield class, GTC Light cruiser laid down 1906

Displacement:
2,628 t light; 2,753 t standard; 3,594 t normal; 4,268 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
389.00 ft / 389.00 ft x 42.00 ft x 14.00 ft (normal load)
118.57 m / 118.57 m x 12.80 m x 4.27 m

Armament:
3 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1906 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft
8 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns in single mounts, 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1906 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 567 lbs / 257 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:

- Armour deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 15,101 shp / 11,265 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,515 tons (70% coal)

Complement:
231 - 301

Cost:
£0.301 million / $1.203 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 74 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 275 tons, 7.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armour Deck: 275 tons, 7.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,047 tons, 29.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,232 tons, 34.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 966 tons, 26.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3,872 lbs / 1,757 Kg = 35.9 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 12.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.45

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.26 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.52 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 80
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.00 ft / -1.22 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Forecastle (33 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Mid (38 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m (10.50 ft / 3.20 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (26 %): 10.50 ft / 3.20 m (17.50 ft / 5.33 m before break)
- Stern: 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Average freeboard: 14.61 ft / 4.45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 141.8 %
Waterplane Area: 11,871 Square feet or 1,103 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 321 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.01
- Longitudinal: 1.64
- Overall: 1.06
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

So... I'm not sure what to do next and would like some advice.
Shall I do:
-A secondary WW1 eya flagship, one built for the minor bases (i'll eventually work out the main and minor stations)
OR
-A modern era vessel in use by the company. This one will need more advice and conversation...

Try a 20's-30's design.