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odysseus1980
Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 1st, 2011, 5:04 pm
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RHN had SAM Terrier (classified as OMI-56) on Elli Class cruisers,with 75km range in OMI-56B (RIM-2F) variant.First Terrier variants were RIM-2C (OMI-56A).My question: SM-1 ER (RIM-67) had 65km range and RIM-2C 37km,could a SM1-ER modified to have about 130-140 km range?What about missile capacity of Elli Class?

P.S Italian Vittorio Venetto with round Mk10 had 60 missiles,so I am thinking of using the modified RIM-67 to CGH Ulysee.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 1st, 2011, 5:55 pm
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Not without moving into the SM-2

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 2nd, 2011, 2:07 pm
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TimothyC wrote:
Of course I will move the SM-2 if doing the conversion to SM-1ER,my Ulysee based on the Andrea Doria Class CG.Vittorio Venetto had 40 SM-1ER and 20 ASROC,but I have seperate ASROC,so could have 60 SM-1ER?

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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 5th, 2011, 5:03 pm
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Just an idea I had for an AU DDG based on Belknap and Leahy class,built around RIM-67 missile.Please comment if any of these two designs is plausible and I will come with background story.

When built,Lysandros Class had Terrier and later modified for RIM-67 Standard ER.Both ships are as they could be now,built in early 1970's.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 5th, 2011, 5:10 pm
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The Royal Yacht with CoA.Although the CoA resembles those of the RHN,crew belongs to Merchant Marine because as I said,The Royal Yacht expences come from a special fund created by Hellenic Ships Owners,who also paid for construction of her back in 1964.For the redesign I use parts from Norwegian Hurtigruten Ships only.

Note 1: The initials "Β/Θ" on the CoA is "Βασιλική Θαλαμηγός",in English "R/Y","Royal Yacht".
Note 2: Nestor has range of 7800nm at 15kn,so she allows quite long trips,even transoceanic.


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 5th, 2011, 6:10 pm
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I like the 'cut of the jib' of the Lysandros, apart from one problem: you've got the forward
5-in sited vertically over the horizontal loading and stored SM1-ER; I don't think you can do that :cry:


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 6th, 2011, 9:02 am
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Can I have both foward gun and Mk10 GMLS? If yes how?


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 6th, 2011, 9:02 am
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
I like the 'cut of the jib' of the Lysandros, apart from one problem: you've got the forward
5-in sited vertically over the horizontal loading and stored SM1-ER; I don't think you can do that :cry:
Can I have both 5in foward gun and Mk10 GMLS? If yes how?


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 6th, 2011, 10:08 am
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As a general 'rule of thumb' I would always go with whatever worked in real life; so, I would expect that the designer of the Lysandros would go with that principle. The positions of the forward 5-in and the SM-1ER could be reversed; that would allow the deck penetration (to magazine) of the gun, and maybe allowing the sam launcher and magazine unobstructed access. Even so, from my limited knowledge I would still consider the hull to be seriously cramped with the weapon fit you're hoping to include. You could always give the hull a bit of stretch? :)


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Post subject: Re: Hellenian KingdomPosted: November 6th, 2011, 12:58 pm
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Ok,Gun and SM-1ER will be reversed.How much stretch do I need?About 5-6m longer and about 1m wider?


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