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Author:  KIKE92 [ February 17th, 2015, 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Progress wrote:
Nice aircrafts!!! But IMHO... As with the VA-1000, if its a purpose built freighter, I would remove some unnecessary doors and/or overwing exits... And maybe that fwd belly cargo door is too close to the engine inlet... I predict a lot of eng 3 nose changes due to ground handling hitting them while loading/unloading... :oops:
Thanks for the comment, im going to change the doors as soon as i can. Im going to remove the rear doors and one of the over wing emergency doors. After watching some photos i have noticed that some aircraft (freighters) only have one door but there are others that have all the doors i supose those are converted freighters thats why i get so mixed up. Anyway what do you think its best. :oops:
Author:  Progress [ February 18th, 2015, 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
I agree with you, fwd doors + one overwing exit per side seems enought for me...
The problem with the doors/windows is that in a pressurized fuselage openings are a stress concentration point :twisted: , so it has to be reinforced around (with weight increase), and needs periodical maintenance to check condition... So for a factory built freighter, as u dont plan to carry passengers or evacuate a large amount of people, is best to build the airframe with fewer holes.
Author:  KIKE92 [ February 18th, 2015, 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
VeneAvia VA1020-10

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The VeneAvia VA1020-10 is a short- to medium-range wide-body twin-engine jet airliner that was developed and manufactured by VeneAvia in cooperation with other companys. Released in 1972 as VeneAvia's first widebody. The VA1020 can typically seat 240 passengers in a two-class layout, with a maximum range of 4,070 nautical miles (6,800 km) when fully loaded, depending on model.

The requirements were stated in 1966 by Avensa, for a VA1010 replacement on busy short- to medium-range routes such as Venezuelan transcontinental flights. The brief included a passenger capacity of 200 to 250 seated in a twin-aisle configuration and fitted with two engines, with the capability of carrying full passenger loads without penalty from high-altitude airports.

On 14 September 1967, the French, and Spanish governments signed a Memorandum of Understanding to participate in the development of the 250-seat VA1020-10. On the months following this agreement, the French government expressed doubts about the aircraft. The French government withdrew from the venture however, the French firm Dassault stayed on the project as a contractor, developing the wings for the VA1020 which were pivotal in the development of new aircraft for short domestic to long intercontinental flights.

This joint venture set the stage for the creation of the International Aerospace Consortium which was formally set up in 1970 following an agreement between VeneAvia (Venezuela), Dassault (France), Aeritalia (Italy) and CASA (Spain). They were joined by the Brazilian Embraer in 1971. Each company would deliver its sections as fully equipped, ready-to-fly assemblies.

The first prototype VA1020 was unveiled on 20 October 1972, making its maiden flight from La Chinita International Airport in Maracaibo on 28 November that year, with launch customer Air Inter introducing the type into service on 12 June 1974. By the time the aircraft entered service orders for over 200 aircraft had been placed by twelve airlines. Production of the VA1020 ceased in August 1986 after it was replaced by the VA1040.

General characteristics

Crew: 3 + 4 flight attendants
Capacity: 218-265 passengers
Length: 55 m (180,45 ft)
Wingspan: 42.55 m (139,6 ft)
Height: 13.81 m (45,31 ft)
Wing area: 219 m2 (2357,3 ft²)
Empty weight: 80,142 kg (181.091,98 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 141,974 kg (312.998,86 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Aerotécnica TR-11A-50 turbofan, 50.000 lbf dry thrust each

Performance

Maximum speed: 920 km/h (571,66 mph / 496,76 knot)
Range: 6,800 km (4225,32 mi)
Service ceiling: 41,000 ft (12.496,8 m)
Author:  KIKE92 [ February 18th, 2015, 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Progress wrote:
I agree with you, fwd doors + one overwing exit per side seems enought for me...
The problem with the doors/windows is that in a pressurized fuselage openings are a stress concentration point :twisted: , so it has to be reinforced around (with weight increase), and needs periodical maintenance to check condition... So for a factory built freighter, as u dont plan to carry passengers or evacuate a large amount of people, is best to build the airframe with fewer holes.
Doors fixed.

CAV AC7-400F

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Author:  KIKE92 [ February 19th, 2015, 11:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
CAV AC8-100 & 200

The CAV AC8 is a short- to medium-range twinjet narrow-body airliner. Originally developed as a shorter, lower-cost twin-engined airliner derived from CAV's AC7. Originally envisioned in 1963, the initial AC8-100 made its first flight in June 1966 and entered airline service in February 1967 with Mexicana. Next, the lengthened AC8-200 entered service in January 1968.

CAV had been studying a short- to medium-range airliner to complement their higher capacity, long range AC7. Preliminary design work began on July 11, 1963. Mexicana became the launch customer on February 19, 1964, with an order for 20 aircraft. To expedite development, CAV used 60% of the structure and systems of the existing AC7, the most notable being the fuselage cross-section. This fuselage permitted six-abreast seating compared to the rival BAC-111 and DC-9's five-abreast layout.

The AC8-200 is a AC8-100 with an extended fuselage and more powerful and efficient engines, launched by an order from Viasa in 1965. The -200 was rolled out on July 20, 1967, and entered service with Viasa in January 1968. CAV also provided the AC8-200CF (Convertible), which allowed for conversion between passenger and cargo use and the AC8-200QC (Quick Change), which facilitated a rapid conversion between roles.

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Specifications (AC8-100):

General characteristics

Crew: 3
Capacity: 100-140 passengers
Length: 33.95 m (111,38 ft)
Wingspan: 30.55 m (100,23 ft)
Height: 12.09 m (39,67 ft)
Wing area: 116 m² (1248,61 ft²)
Empty weight: 31,700 kg (69,800 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 58,100 kg (128,100 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × VeneAvia TR-6-20A turbofan, 18,900 lbf dry thrust each

Performance

Maximum speed: 926 km/h (500 knots, 575 mph)
Range: 3,500–4,300 km (2,200–2,600 mi)
Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,000 ft)

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Specifications (AC8-200):

General characteristics

Crew: 3
Capacity: 120-160 passengers
Length: 37.5 m (123,03 ft)
Wingspan: 30.55 m (100,23 ft)
Height: 12.09 m (39,67 ft)
Wing area: 116 m² (1248,61 ft²)
Empty weight: 33,200 kg (73,040 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 68,050 kg (149,710 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × VeneAvia TR-6-24A turbofan, 24.000 lbf dry thrust each

Performance

Maximum speed: 926 km/h (500 knots, 575 mph)
Range: 4,300 km (2,600 mi)
Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,000 ft)
Author:  KIKE92 [ February 19th, 2015, 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Hello everyone, this are a couple of variations of battlecruisers and battleships that im making for the brazilian
navy but im a bit stuck so i would like to here some suggestions. The ships are suposed to be built according
to the washington treaty and in this AU brazil is a very close UK ally hence the british influence on the ships.

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Author:  KIKE92 [ February 22nd, 2015, 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Quito Class - Battleship

The Quito-class battleships, were the first dreadnoughts built for the Venezuelan Navy. They had a convoluted design history involving several changes in requirements, development problems and foreign protests. Construction was delayed by development problems.They were delivered from November 1907 through February 1910, although they still needed work on the turrets and fire-control systems until mid-1910.

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General characteristics

Type: Dreadnought
Displacement: 24,800 metric tons (24,400 long tons; 27,300 short tons)
Length: 177.57 m (582,58 ft)
Beam: 27 m (88,58 ft)
Draft: 8.48 m (27,82 ft)
Installed power: 52,000 shp (39,000 kW) (on trials)
Propulsion: 4 shafts, steam turbines
25 water-tube boilers
Speed: 24.1 kn (44.6 km/h; 27.7 mph) (on trials)
Range: 3,200 nmi (5,900 km; 3,700 mi) at 10 kn (19 km/h; 12 mph)
Complement: 1,149
Armament: 4 × 3 – 12-inch guns
14 × 1 – 4.7-inch (120 mm) guns
Armor: Waterline belt: 125–225 mm (4.9–8.9 in)
Deck: 12–50 mm (0.47–1.97 in)
Turrets: 76–203 mm (3.0–8.0 in)
Barbettes: 75–150 mm (3.0–5.9 in)
Conning tower: 100–254 mm (3.9–10.0 in)
Author:  KIKE92 [ February 28th, 2015, 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
VeneAvia VA-1010-10F

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Author:  ezgo394 [ March 1st, 2015, 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Nice work on the aircraft (and the ships as well)! The VA-1020 design is very nice.
Author:  Hood [ March 2nd, 2015, 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: United States of Venezuela
Great additions as usual.

I love those mini-battleships, you've got some very neat ideas there. Perhaps enter one into the 25,000 ton contest with 12in guns?

The Quito looks interesting, but you'd probably want more forward arcs for B turret.
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