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Thiel
Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 28th, 2011, 9:23 pm
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If you're not going to mount the 6-pounders why not why not remove the cutout from both sides of the forecastle

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 5:27 am
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All right!!!
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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 6:42 pm
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In 1908, as the first destroyers took to the water and the second batch laid down, Congress approved the construction of 4 coast defense submarines. The S-3 Class expanded on everything learned operating the first two subs in the S-1 Class.

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Built again by Electric Boat in the United States, they were bigger than the S-1s, faster, and carried twice as many torpedos. However, they were still not expected to make extended cruises in the Gulf of Mexico, but protect the approaches to the harbors. These subs commissioned in 1910.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 6:48 pm
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It may just be because I'm used to looking at Danish submarines which were fairly sleek, but it seems rather stubby.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 7:10 pm
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She's very stubby. Based on the American C Class from the same time period. Only one was built for the US Navy, but she had the characteristics I was looking for in that time frame.

And you're right about the forecastle on the Beaumonts. I'll remove the cutout completely in future versions.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 7:32 pm
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In 1910, the Texas Navy completed its fleet expansion to 4000 men. It had more than doubled its hull strength and started the transition to fuel oil instead of coal. The first of the two cruisers was commissioned, and the second would follow in 1911, the same year as the scheduled Congressional Review.

The last of the sail fleet passed when the Canadian and Frio were scrapped, and the Cruiser Independence, overshadowed by her bigger cousin Invincible, was struck and sent to the breakers as the Campeche took her slip at the Navy Yard:

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Campeche and her sister ship San Jacinto represented everything the Texas Navy aspired to be, but were the last ships built according to the familiar design parameters used by the Design Bureau. She was an oil burner by design, not by conversion, used the newer, longer range guns and mounted the largest yet for the navy - 10" rifles. And they had armor to protect against similar ordnance.

Displacement:
9,766 t light; 10,239 t standard; 11,491 t normal; 12,493 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(420.00 ft / 420.00 ft) x 60.00 ft x (28.00 / 29.96 ft)
(128.02 m / 128.02 m) x 18.29 m x (8.53 / 9.13 m)

Armament:
4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1899 Model
8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1898 Model
6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1900 Model

Main Torpedoes
4 - 18.0" / 533 mm, 10.00 ft / 3.05 m torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 273.00 ft / 83.21 m 9.30 ft / 2.83 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 8.00" / 203 mm 273.00 ft / 83.21 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 10.0" / 254 mm
2nd: 6.00" / 152 mm - -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm
Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25,242 ihp / 18,831 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
554 - 721

Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

But by 1911, the battleship race was on and a 10" cruiser wouldn't stand against the 12" guns taking to the water in rival navies such as Brazil and Argentina. And 4000 men with 21 ships won't meet the Navy's vision for its future. More growth and bigger ships are to come before the Great War starts and puts it all to the test.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 7:35 pm
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I can't wait to see what kind of 'Power Projection' fleet Texas looks into.
I could see submarines playing a large role here...


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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 7:39 pm
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Great one Redhorse, but may I suggest that on the cruiser Campeche, you should place vents near the funnels and the engine-room area, as these are lacking from your drawing.

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 10:22 pm
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Great one Redhorse, but may I suggest that on the cruiser Campeche, you should place vents near the funnels and the engine-room area, as these are lacking from your drawing.
Since she's an oil burner, I don't think she needs as much venting as most ships of that time. But if other members also feel they are needed, I can put them in. The engine room vents are flush with the Spar Deck/Boat Deck/01 Level.

Any other suggestions out there on the vents?

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Post subject: Re: Republic of TexasPosted: December 29th, 2011, 11:13 pm
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Red, welcome home, and your 10" Cruiser is just what I need for a light cruiser. Also feel free to use either the Dracan BC, or the BB

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