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Author: | Rhade [ October 19th, 2018, 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
The turrets are uniform.
How? The back of forward turret is clearly different from the back of rear turret.
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Author: | Shigure [ October 19th, 2018, 1:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
I'm honestly really confused at what you are trying to point out. |
Author: | BB1987 [ October 19th, 2018, 2:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
On a closer look, the Cora-class forward turrets are indeed different from the aft ones. The forward turrets have a sotr of "cut" in the upper back, while the aft ones appear to be more squared. I admit I got initially confused because somehow I assumed Rhade was talking about the cruisers instead. Might be the case of misunderstanding. Nice work anyway, the only point I could make is that the Princeton class stern below the waterline looks empty. Both the keel curve around the rudder and propeller struts seem to imply that the hull is extremely fine there, maybe even too much to fit the lower end of the barbettes or give proper buoyancy. |
Author: | Rhade [ October 19th, 2018, 2:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
Aye, Cora class. |
Author: | Shigure [ October 19th, 2018, 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
Ahh! Yeah the forward turrets are rounded off so that the hedgehog can clear it when fired. This is present on USN destroyer escorts as well. |
Author: | Shigure [ October 25th, 2018, 7:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
Chiaki class destroyer The Chiaki class was a series of 82 destroyers built from 1318 to 1321, the largest class in the Antaran navy, and made up of three subclasses or batches. The design represented a divergence in doctrine from the previous Ember class, as she was designed solely for torpedo attacks, instead of the 'hybrid' doctrine that combined both destroyer hunting and torpedo attacks, though however Chiaki was still very well gunned for her time. The second part of the divergence came in the form of 'destroyer leaders' built alongside the Chiakis, intended to lead the destroyer flotillas and trade torpedo power for gunpower. The class was known to be fairly well liked by her crews, owing mostly to good seaworthiness. As built Chiaki carried five 100mm/45s, two of which were mounted on her wings. She also carried a large torpedo armament of nine 533mm torpedoes, in three triple launchers, and four reloadable torpedoes. She had a modest speed of between 36 and 37.5 knots, with the speed generally being dictated on where the destroyer was built. Six shipyards built all 82 vessels. Most of the first batch of Chiakis saw deployment and even some minor action in the Great War, commissioned in early 1319, as part of the Freyatic Fleet. Though following the end of the war, their service was less spectacular even if they were technically more active. The interwar period saw most members of the class being treated rather poorly, shipyards did not bother to repaint most of the vessels until they were needed again, and the only maintenance they received was mandatory - most saw no refits until the World War had already begun. It was policy for the navy to avoid using older ships in the Scyllic as they believed the Osorans posed a much larger threat than the Siegmarians, so quite a number of Chiakis served in the Freyatic Fleet in the WW, usually relegated to slow convoy escort and submarine hunting until they were further rendered obsolete by destroyer escorts. Around 20 were given to the Royal Navy in late 1342 under the Destroyers for Bases Agreement, and despite being old, they were also somewhat liked by their new Wesmeric owners. They were all put back into service as early as the following year. The name ship of the class served in the Scyllic Fleet for the whole of the WW and remains the only vessel of her class to have been struck by a kamikaze, which is strange considering how rare a vessel of her age was in the later stages of the Scyllic War. Most Chiakis that served in the Scyllic would've been out of pure desperation to bring out anything to halt the Osoran advance. Hyder's original Great War camouflage scheme is still present after 20 years, albeit faded. HMS Winchester, named for the cities both the Wesmere and the Antarans have in common, was formally ARS Rose. She was moderately refitted before being put back into service in 1344. Her amidships AA platform was already present before she was leased. It wasn't common for the Chiakis to receive radar, being the oldest Antaran destroyer class in service. Cairncross also features DP 76mm guns, a gun also not particularly common, and hers were taken from another older vessel. Hanny outfitted as a carrier escort, with all of her original mounts being replaced with 40mm AA guns. As the navy avoided using them to directly fight other surface warships in the Scyllic, they were typically found escorting slow carriers whose sole purpose was ground support during the Scyllic island hopping campaign. Displacement - 1200 tonnes Speed - 36 to 37.5 knots (varies depending on yard) Range - 5000nm at 14 knots Armament - 5x1 100mm/45 Torpedoes - 3x3 533mm with 4 single reloads Ships in class Original batch (built 1317-1318) Chiaki - sunk in action, 1319 Downs - scrapped, 1349 Townley - torpedoed, 1342 Dwain - scrapped, 1349 Maplewood - scrapped, 1949 Starlet - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1949 Shepard - scrapped, 1349 Henderson - scrapped, 1349 Hyder - scrapped, 1349 Grissam - scrapped, 1349 Bandy - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 F. Garcia - scrapped, 1349 Gleaves - scrapped, 1349 Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Mason - beached, 1344 Ponds - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Laffey - scrapped, 1348 Vanderson - torpedoed, 1344 Madox - scrapped, 1939 Eisman - scrapped, 1349 Colby - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1345 Winston - scrapped, 1349 D. Smith - torpedoed, 1343 Connally - scrapped, 1349 Lawsen - scrapped, 1349 Thatcher - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343 Wickerson - scrapped, 1349 Louw - scrapped, 1349 Grey - sunk in surface action, 1345 Deja batch (built 1319-1320) Deja - scrapped, 1349 Scotts - scrapped, 1349 Johnston - sunk in surface action, 1344 Clarryton - torpedoed, 1943 Bailey - scrapped, 1349 Amor - scrapped, 1350 Perry - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1342 Jakes - rammed, 1343 Morgan - sunk in surface action, 1343 Williams - scrapped, 1349 Carter - scrapped, 1349 A. Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1342 Turner - scrapped, 1349 Caldwell - torpedoed, 1345 Thompson - torpedoed, 1343 J.E.Garcia - scrapped, 1349 Lopez - sunk in surface action, 1343 Rose - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Nicholas - scrapped, 1349 Lewis - scrapped, 1349 Knight - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343 Greywords - scrapped, 1349 Brummer - scrapped, 1349 Cullins batch (built 1320-1321) Cullins - scrapped, 1349 Bane - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Chandler - scrapped, 1349 Walker - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Lee - scrapped, 1349 Higgins - scrapped, 1349 Hanny - torpedoed, 1342 Dylandy - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343 Umberto - scrapped, 1349 Carmine - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Nigiri - sunk in collision with U-boat, 1342 Mikihara - scrapped, 1349 Abrams - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1343 Lucita - torpedoed, 1346 Yumeko - scrapped, 1349 Allsworth - torpedoed, 1342 E. Jenkins - Leased to Wesmere, sold to USSR 1349 H. Smith - sunk in surface action, 1344 Marshal - Leased to Wesmere, torpedoed 1344 Abella - torpedoed, 1342 Cairncross - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Davids - scrapped, 1349 Clark - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Bardace - scrapped, 1349 Marcus - Leased to Wesmere, sunk in surface action 1344 Jaya - sunk in surface action, 1343 Naia - scrapped, 1349 Harris - sunk by aircraft, 1345 Friedland - Leased to Wesmere, scrapped 1349 Madelaine - scrapped, 1349 Brooklyn - scrapped, 1349 |
Author: | Armoured man [ October 25th, 2018, 7:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
That's a lot of underage loli boats and also the drawings are amazing as usual |
Author: | erik_t [ October 25th, 2018, 7:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
The forward torpedo launcher is interesting. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that, but I can't think of a real-life ship that featured such an installation. Quite hard to consider a WW1-era destroyer clocking a speed of 37.5 knots, even on trial, and calling that "modest"!! |
Author: | BB1987 [ October 25th, 2018, 8:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
The forward torpedo launcher is interesting. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that, but I can't think of a real-life ship that featured such an installation.
The Japanese did it on the Kamikaze and Minekaze classes (and the following Mutsuki as well).
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Author: | Rhade [ October 25th, 2018, 9:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Antara |
Not to mention whole horde of German destroyers/torpedoboot's. |
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