Looks excellent so far!
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| Author: | eswube [ April 9th, 2017, 6:21 pm ] |
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Looks excellent so far!
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| Author: | Garlicdesign [ April 9th, 2017, 8:04 pm ] | ||
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Hello WhyMe!
As it happens, the German UB-III type is at this moment being drawn for my Ottoman AU, expect results after the weekend That's great, I'd love to add another one of your drawings in my AU  [/quote] You might end up with more than one. If you want ten boats which were completed but not commissioned, in RL this would give you (not counting the boats commissioned by the French) UB 101, 102 and 154 (built by Vulcan/Hamburg); UB 133 and 136 (built by Krupp/Kiel); 142, 143, 144, 145 and 150 (built by Weser/Bremen). All of them have completion dates after October 1918. Each yard built them with a few external differences. I wanted only the Vulcan version for the Turks, but I have enough sources to draw them all. Matter of days. Greetings GD |
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| Author: | Colosseum [ April 10th, 2017, 2:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Beautiful - this type of thoughtful and well-researched AU is what I wish everyone could aspire to! |
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| Author: | WhyMe [ April 11th, 2017, 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Thanks! NRP Adamastor ![[ img ]](http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j444/WhyMe-PB/ShipBucket/AU%20Portugal/C%20Adamastor.png) Adamastor was built in Italy in 1896. It was a nice little cruiser back then but by the end of the World War it barely could pass as a gunboat. However she had a very decent range of 4,600 miles and her outdated yet reliable boilers were easily maintainable. Thus, after several minor changes to the masts and the bridge, she was transferred to colonial service as an “artillery gunboat” thanks to her old 150mm guns that were only good for shore bombardment. The rest of the armament was updated to the new standard: 105mm quick firing guns and 37mm machine-cannons. The bow-mounted torpedo tube was removed, the other two got replaced with new ones. |
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| Author: | HyperHiggsHelix [ April 11th, 2017, 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Really like the design of that ship. |
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| Author: | eswube [ April 11th, 2017, 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Excellent as always.
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| Author: | WhyMe [ April 12th, 2017, 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Thank you, thank you. Cotiara class ![[ img ]](http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j444/WhyMe-PB/ShipBucket/AU%20Portugal/T%20Cotiara.png) Six Austro-Hungarian torpedo boats were purchased without armament to be used for training crews and officers of future destroyers. While in the shipyard for installation of the new equipment the forecastles of all ships were extended backwards which, with removal of the front torpedo tubes, allowed to increase the crew accommodations and the bridge area. These little ships turned out to be quite tenacious and were kept in active service for a long time. |
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| Author: | eswube [ April 12th, 2017, 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Sweet!
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| Author: | Gollevainen [ April 12th, 2017, 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
really great work in here. A modest AU that still triumphs! |
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| Author: | WhyMe [ April 19th, 2017, 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kingdom of Portugal |
Thank you! Beluga and Lula classes, NRP Hidra ![[ img ]](http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j444/WhyMe-PB/ShipBucket/AU%20Portugal/S%20Beluga.png) ![[ img ]](http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j444/WhyMe-PB/ShipBucket/AU%20Portugal/S%20Lula.png) ![[ img ]](http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j444/WhyMe-PB/ShipBucket/AU%20Portugal/S%20Hidra.png) When 10 submarines of UB-III class got delivered, the Portuguese were surprised to find out that there were some differences between the ships since they were built in three separate shipyards. The Admiralty refused to accept these subs unless all of them were completely identical (the high-ranks in the government were kissing up to King Luis II who was already known to sacrifice everything in favor of unification in order to reduce logistic spendings as much as possible) and the situation eventually escalated to a certain level and became a political issue. During negotiations with Germans a compromise have been reached: Portugal would keep the ships and pay the full price if Germany provided technical assistance (including personnel and equipment) to the Lisbon Naval Arsenal in order to modify three of the subs into minelayers. Thus instead of a single class of ten submarines Portugal got 5 regular subs (built by Weser) which formed the Beluga class, 3 minelayers (built by Vulkan, modified by Lisbon Naval Arsenal) of Lula class and 2 submarines built by Krupp one of which was assigned to the Naval Academy as a training ship NRP Hidra and the other to Lisbon Naval Arsenal for studying and reverse engineering (as well as spare parts donor). Special thanks to Garlicdesign for thorough research and amazing drawings. |
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