Probably the underwater hull might benefit to a redesign at the stern, but believe it or not, Zagor's DD has the same draft of the Japanese Atago-Class, what makes it look much bulkier is that his ship has just a two-pixel black-boot-topping
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| Author: | BB1987 [ April 7th, 2017, 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
Probably the underwater hull might benefit to a redesign at the stern, but believe it or not, Zagor's DD has the same draft of the Japanese Atago-Class, what makes it look much bulkier is that his ship has just a two-pixel black-boot-topping
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| Author: | Navybrat85 [ April 7th, 2017, 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
I think his looks bulkier because the Superstructure is one solid piece rather than two distinct sections like Atago. |
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| Author: | Zagor01 [ April 8th, 2017, 10:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
Specifications: Class: Kitsune Type: Heavy missile attack ship Year of introduction: 2017 Length: 110m Crew: 77 Speed: 34 knots Armaments: 1x OTO Melara 76mm gun 1x Mk II "Notachi" CIWS 12-Cell VLS for twelve anti air missiles 16x Harpoon launchers (only HNS Kitsune carrys 16 Harpoon launchers, remaining ships carry eight launchers) 2x M2 Browning - manned machine guns 4x twin torpedo launchers for MU90 lightweight torpedoes (two mounted on each side of the hull) Aircraft: Small to medium sized helicopter can land on landing pad. Kitsune is sub variant of the Japanese Oda class. Originally ten ships were ordered, but that was then cut to six and finally to only four. Ships were constructed by Aichii Shipbuilding Company and Japanese Mitstubishi Heavy Industries (Honen division). These ships were ordered as replacement for six aging Sawano missile corvettes. While only few meters longer then Oda class, it carry the same radar and sensor (electronic in general) systems, and its weapons were more or less the same. It armament consist of OTO Melara 76mm naval gun. One Mk II Notachi CIWS for close in defenses. Twelve VLS cells which carry's only anti-air missiles (although any other kind can be added as well). Two M2 Browning machine guns and four twin torpedo launchers for lightweight torpedoes. Its main weapon however is its Harpoon launchers. It can carry from eight to sixteen launchers. However while larger amount of Harpoons allow more firepower, it also needed more space. Only Kitsune iself carry all sixteen launchers, while other three ships carry eight. Kitsune class is suitable for hit and run tactics, it is fast, very maneuverable and well armed. With its firepower it can strike any surface target, from smallest patrol boat to aircraft carrier with deadly precision. It is not designed to go toe vs toe with large surface combatants like destroyers, although it can attack it without problem with its missiles. In short Kitsune is basically one big missile boat. Honen naval command plan to replace Harpoon launchers and missiles with its own domestic missile which was to be introduced into navy from 2024. Ships: 110 HNS Kitsune - commissioned in 2018 built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (Honen Division)in Mizuho Home port - Toyoma 111 HNS Tanuki - commissioned in 2018 built by Aichii Shipbuilding Company in Omorika Home port - Gehi 112 HNS Houou - commissioned in 2019 built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (Honen Division) in Mizuho Home port - Gehi 113 HNS Mizuchi - commissioned in 2020 built by Aichii Shipbuilding Company in Omorika Home port - Tabakuma ![[ img ]](http://orig05.deviantart.net/e758/f/2017/098/c/0/kitsune_class_by_zagoreni010-db51yo7.png)
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| Author: | Skyder2598 [ April 8th, 2017, 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
Hi, looks good so far  However there are some points to think about IMHO: -double black lines (esp. the bridge, the SAT behind the funnel, under the helipad) -may make the whole bridge 2px smaller in height so that the windows are flush with the railing (looks better IMHO) -check the transition to the heli pad, it's screwed up a bit -the design should have stealth abilities? Then rethink the railing (some parts with/ some without), I suggest to remove them all -remove the VLS cells, I think that drawing is outdaded and they would be integrated and not visible -move the main gun 3px down so it is flush with the main deck (better for stealth) -make the stabilizer fin smaller (esp. in hight) -angles under 90deg shouldn't be black (the bevels in the front and the brigde extension) Thats what I see, mainly drawing wise, other may find some more thinks about the systems But go on and it will become better and better
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| Author: | RegiaMarina1939 [ April 8th, 2017, 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
While I echo Skyder's comments, your drawing is very well done. Good job. |
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| Author: | Zagor01 [ April 8th, 2017, 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Republic of Honen |
Ok, i think i correct most if not all what Skyder pointed, ![[ img ]](http://orig02.deviantart.net/c117/f/2017/098/5/2/kitsune_class_by_zagoreni010-db51yo7.png)
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