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eltf177
Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 24th, 2011, 5:02 pm
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Much better. But now she's pretty much a CDS, which the Navy rejected when they went with Deutchland. Of course, they were supposed to be able to fight off cruisers and run from battleships, the "Hood", "Renown's" and "Kongo's" were supposidly the only ships they needed to fear. And we know how well that turned out...


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Rodondo
Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 24th, 2011, 11:06 pm
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Okay after a hell of a tweaking I have practically a commerce raider/heavy-mid size cruiser :lol:
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No idea for a name, Germany, laid down 1924

Displacement:
5,378 t light; 5,636 t standard; 9,775 t normal; 13,086 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
609.41 ft / 605.00 ft x 59.40 ft x 17.00 ft (normal load)
185.75 m / 184.40 m x 18.11 m x 5.18 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 3.50" / 88.9 mm guns in single mounts, 21.44lbs / 9.72kg shells, 1924 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 734 lbs / 333 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
6 - 0.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 300.00 ft / 91.44 m 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
Ends: 2.00" / 51 mm 305.00 ft / 92.96 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Upper: 1.00" / 25 mm 300.00 ft / 91.44 m 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
Main Belt covers 76 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.20" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil Fired Boilers,Steam Turbines
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 95,190 shp / 71,012 Kw = 32.90 kts
Range 12,300nm at 22.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 7,449 tons

Complement:
490 - 638

Cost:
£0.820 million / $3.280 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 92 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 1,470 tons, 15.0 %
- Belts: 729 tons, 7.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 179 tons, 1.8 %
- Armour Deck: 562 tons, 5.7 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,816 tons, 39.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,397 tons, 45.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
158,941 lbs / 72,094 Kg = 1,471.7 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 31.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 13.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
Block coefficient: 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.19 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.00 ft / 7.62 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m (22.00 ft / 6.71 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Stern: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Average freeboard: 22.36 ft / 6.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 9.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 216.5 %
Waterplane Area: 25,316 Square feet or 2,352 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 444 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 91 lbs/sq ft or 446 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 26th, 2011, 12:51 am
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Zero inch torpedoes?

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Rodondo
Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 26th, 2011, 2:05 am
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*fixed*
All good?

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eltf177
Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 26th, 2011, 11:01 am
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Rodondo wrote:
Okay after a hell of a tweaking I have practically a commerce raider/heavy-mid size cruiser :lol:

6 - 0.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes
No fuel, Internal combustion motors,
No drive to shaft, 3 shafts, 95,190 shp / 71,012 Kw = 32.90 kts
Got a few problems here...


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Rodondo
Post subject: Re: "Treaty of Versailles" Battleship for GermanyPosted: May 26th, 2011, 11:17 am
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Fixed(again)

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