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Author:  acelanceloet [ April 15th, 2018, 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

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From Friedman's US Aircraft carriers:
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This "self-protecting CVAN" was sketched in 1955 as part of a BuShips attempt to forecast warship possibilities. It suggests the promise of VTOL technology (presumably based on the Bell X-13, which was partly funded by the navy, and which could have landed in the "VTOL nets" abaft the island) and of the new surface-to-air missiles. The power plant would have duplicated that of the new Enterprise. Its dimensions were 990 feet (wl), 1030 feet (oa), by 132 feet wl by 36 feet, for a light ship displacement of 64875 tons (81150 tons fully loaded). Self-defense would have been achieved with the two Talos launchers (fore and aft of the island) and four Terriers (in quadrants). With three C 7 catapults, the CVAN would have operated conventional aircraft as well as VTOLs; her air group was listed as eight heavy bombers (A3D size), twenty-four VTOL interceptors, four night fighters (F3H-1N) and sixteen ASW helicopters (HRZS). Note that the carrier had no sonar and no ASW missile battery, although she would operate without escorting ships. Costs were estimated as $375 million for the lead ship and $340 million for the follow ships. In fact the must simpler Enterprise cost about 451 million, without defensive missiles.
Instead of the X-13, I have used the Ryan Model 115C VTOL interceptor that was designed based on the X-13 design.

Components:
RIM-8 Talos
Mk 77 Talos FCS
RIM-2 Terrier
Mk 12 GMLS
Mk 76 Terrier FCS
Mk 10 GMLS
Ryan Model 115C
F3H Demon
A3D Skywarrior
AN/SPG-49
AN/SPQ-5
AN/SPW-2
....

Author:  Charybdis [ April 15th, 2018, 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Stunning work. Well done.

Author:  Colombamike [ April 15th, 2018, 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Look same as a up-scaled "Charles de Gaulle" CVN (the French "Charles de Gaulle" CVN were slowly designed by 1974-1988)
French naval-intelligence-service probably have these drawings data's during 1970's...

Author:  eswube [ April 15th, 2018, 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Interesting design and great drawing.

Author:  Hood [ April 16th, 2018, 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Always been intrigued by this concept and its great to see it in SB scale.

It is an odd design, given it was only intended to operate a dozen non-VTOL aircraft it still featured no less than three steam catapults. The X-13 worked out surprisingly well with its neat platform landing system but doing the same on a rolling ship would have been trickier.

One nitpick, the canopies of your various aircraft are a mix of new and old shades, they would look better if all the same shade I think.

Author:  MihoshiK [ April 16th, 2018, 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Damn that ship must have lost a lot of space belowdecks to the missile magazines!

Author:  heuhen [ April 16th, 2018, 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

It's quite an interesting concept and a good drawing to.

Author:  erik_t [ April 16th, 2018, 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Ooh, I've been wanting to see this concept illustrated for many years. A truly bizarre proposal (although "proposal" might be too strong a word).

Author:  acelanceloet [ April 18th, 2018, 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

Colombamike wrote: *
Look same as a up-scaled "Charles de Gaulle" CVN (the French "Charles de Gaulle" CVN were slowly designed by 1974-1988)
French naval-intelligence-service probably have these drawings data's during 1970's...
The French based their 2000+ carrier on an larger concept that was quite flawed (designed not by ship designers, but by people trying to predict the future of warship design) that is 40+ years older? No wonder the Charles de Gaulle was so flawed at launch! Any proof of this?
Or in other words, Colombamike, I don't agree with except if you give much more accurate details

Author:  Colombamike [ April 18th, 2018, 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Self-protecting CVAN 1955 concept

acelanceloet wrote: *
Or in other words, Colombamike, I don't agree with except if you give much more accurate details
you are a player, will come the day you play both ;)

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