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| Author: | acelanceloet [ December 17th, 2011, 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | iranian kortenaer |
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| Author: | Carthaginian [ December 17th, 2011, 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
I assume this was something that was intended to be sold to the Shah's Iran? A very interesting design- looks like a lot of room for expansion in the design. |
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| Author: | acelanceloet [ December 17th, 2011, 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
there are few sources on what exactly it is... some sources say that 6 of these frigates are sold to iran but never build, others say that those 6 frigates would have been perry's. the only fact there is is that construction never started. it looks like there is room for expansion.... but there isn't. the ship is quite close to weight limits, as the hull was designed for an mk 29, harpoons and 2 oto 76's, while right now there is an mk 22, an mk 45 and 2 phalanxes. |
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| Author: | Carthaginian [ December 17th, 2011, 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
No wonder it is so empty, then... everything weighs twice as much as it is supposed to. 
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| Author: | ALVAMA [ December 17th, 2011, 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
Iran ordered in 1977/1979; 6 frigates by the Schelde to modified design with USN weapon systems that would have been place at the Destroyers they bougth too, but no frigate or DDG ever arrived. It are just S-frigates modified to Iranian wishes. This design was later re-used by the Dutch what would lead to the Jacob van Heemskerck class. |
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| Author: | klagldsf [ December 18th, 2011, 1:33 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer | |
This design was later re-used by the Dutch what would lead to the Jacob van Heemskerck class.
Yet that design had the Mk 13 moved aft (it also lacked a medium-caliber naval gun, once again the consequence of weight limits)You might also be interested to know that there's one of the original MConrads drawings of this here, mislabeled under "real designs" for some reason. Some of the details differ between Acelancelot's but maybe he could make some use of it. |
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| Author: | Gollevainen [ December 18th, 2011, 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
since there is indeed considerable differences (and indeed why it is in the real life section?) between the drawings, I would like to see some sources before accepting anything new to be added to the archives. |
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| Author: | acelanceloet [ December 18th, 2011, 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
there is only one source, the link is in the first post. most of the differences are because of the different base drawings. the original was based on the old S-frigate hull, mine on the new one. in weapon systems both drawings are the same, except for the harpoon placement, which I adjusted as shown on the reference. the radar systems differ slightly. the reference seems to show the FCS that the kidds used, his uses the SPG-62, which wasn't even available back then. the only difference that remains is the structure around the funnel, which I personally think is more accurate on my version, and the SLQ-32. the SLQ was not on the ref so I decided to leave it off, and even if it was placed that position is an unlikely one. other than the above points, I believe all differences are updated parts. well, I would say, good enough for an update of mconrads old drawing, don't you think? |
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| Author: | Gollevainen [ December 18th, 2011, 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
The biggest difference (and my biggest concern) is the shape of the fore superstructure and the shape of the foremast. Im sure all the equipment are well done and newest versions, but the issue is not there. |
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| Author: | acelanceloet [ December 18th, 2011, 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: iranian kortenaer |
that is just the interpretation of the image. that is what you get if you have only one source image  IMO, mine resembles the drawing best, while all sizes were based on the real life S frigate. the differences in shape aren't that much changed, only the relative sizes, which I estimated based on the S frigate structures. most likely, neither I nor mconrads are entirely correct, but both are an more or less accurate depiction of the source material.
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