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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: January 31st, 2015, 8:47 am
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This promises to be an interesting thread.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 1st, 2015, 9:17 pm
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Here is a previous French battlecruiser Design Study A1 (A) from 1927.

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I have added an armor belt here too.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 1st, 2015, 9:47 pm
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Outstanding drawings David, but this last ship looks under armed.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 1st, 2015, 10:41 pm
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Should look empty, why you would stay with 12' guns (305mm even if you have 12 of them) when you are a 1927+ ship with 35,000t is beyond me ? would 3 triples with 14' not be better ? (or even twins for 6x16').

Anyway love your drawing could you add any text about what study/etc ? really helps when most people (myself inc) have never heard about the specific ship design much.
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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 8:24 am
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JSB wrote:
Should look empty, why you would stay with 12' guns (305mm even if you have 12 of them) when you are a 1927+ ship with 35,000t is beyond me ? would 3 triples with 14' not be better ? (or even twins for 6x16'). Anyway love your drawing could you add any text about what study/etc ? really helps when most people (myself inc) have never heard about the specific ship design much. JSB
I'm not sure you fully understood
This is not a game, this is not an imaginary design, this is not a AU design...
This is real-life, this is a design that has been really studied
You make an incredible error analysis
You thought Americans (triple 14" & large firepower), when this design is...French
a design-option with twin 16" exist, it will be the next


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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 8:48 am
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Agreed with Colombamike here. Historical designs are what they are. This armament looks exactly correct to me, the 8x1 75mm and 8x1 37mm being classic interwar cruiser fit. There is much more cruiser in this design than capital ship. I'm assuming the only armour is box protection around the magazines and a thinnish deck.

One design question is why the large deckhouse? Is it simply to shield the boatdeck from the blast from those 6.1in qauds when trained on aft bearings? Its a huge structure yet doesn't seem to be a hangar etc.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 9:23 am
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The large two story structure is a four plane hanger.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 9:52 am
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how did they get the planes into that hangar? there is no rails drawn and the crane does not cover that area. the boats seem to block just rolling the aircraft over the deck.

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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 10:25 am
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Hood wrote:
This armament looks exactly correct to me, the 8x1 75mm and 8x1 37mm being classic interwar cruiser fit. There is much more cruiser in this design than capital ship. I'm assuming the only armour is box protection around the magazines and a thinnish deck.
The single AA guns is 90mm model 1926
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those 6.1in qauds when trained on aft bearings?
for these quads turrets, the gun-caliber is not 6,1", but a 5,1" gun (130mm)


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Post subject: Re: French 1926-1931 capital-ships studiesPosted: February 2nd, 2015, 1:14 pm
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Colombamike wrote:
JSB wrote:
Should look empty, why you would stay with 12' guns (305mm even if you have 12 of them) when you are a 1927+ ship with 35,000t is beyond me ? would 3 triples with 14' not be better ? (or even twins for 6x16'). Anyway love your drawing could you add any text about what study/etc ? really helps when most people (myself inc) have never heard about the specific ship design much. JSB
I'm not sure you fully understood
This is not a game, this is not an imaginary design, this is not a AU design...
This is real-life, this is a design that has been really studied
You make an incredible error analysis
You thought Americans (triple 14" & large firepower), when this design is...French
a design-option with twin 16" exist, it will be the next
I fully accept this is a real plan by the French (and that its a nice drawing by David Latuch with I'm sure your excellent references),
but why does that stop us asking why the French thought 12x12' was a good idea ? (or even if it was a good idea ?)(cost maybe, already built/developed the guns ?)
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You make an incredible error analysis
well go on explain why I would like to learn more ?

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