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Hawkeye
Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 3rd, 2012, 2:22 pm
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I prefer the original planned airwing from 1951
and this airwing includes the Banshees and the Cutlass.
F-4 Phantoms? 1951? FH Phantoms, ok but not the F-4
and of course not the A-5, more the A-3 and they're coming later too.

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 3rd, 2012, 10:36 pm
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St. Norman wrote:
SPS-22

An abortive L-band air search radar for 'flush-decked vessels', using three radars in synchronous operation to cover up to 360° in azimuth. This is almost certainly the set of three SPS-6Cs in radomes planned for the Forrestal, before she was redesigned with an island and a more conventional electronic configuration. She would have had one on either beam and one right aft, and the function of the SPS-22 electronics was coordination, so that all three would feed into a common display. Westinghouse.
FWIW. I think a three-antenna installation is almost a certainty, with one of the three cantilevered off of the stern and off to one side.


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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 12:49 am
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@ erik_t:

I know the fact of the three devices of the AN/SPS-22 system for the Forrestal-Class as a flushdeck carrier design.
But there's another fact: The United States have guns on the aft, the Forrestal flushdeck design have no guns there.
Where should I find enough space there?? Two 3" L/70 and the AN/SPN-12 CCA device + one time AN-SPS-6C with
his radome!! OK, I try to find a solution for this problem, but, please give me time therefor.

Update info:

I have reworked the horizontal stacks/funnels.
All gun platforms are fitted with railings.
All restractable devices are fitted with railings too.
I have filled the free bow section. Not complete but I think it's ok now.
Have filled the free space on the aft port side (have looked very naked there).

Next upload coming soon.

-Michael-

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 1:27 am
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@ erik_t:

Done!! Have find the space between the guns!! And on the right side!!
Both deck plans are ready with this fitting. Am working on the starboard and port side.
Think it's done tomorrow 'Cause it's pretty late here and in four hours my cab is coming
to bring me to the dialysis. So I'm back at noon my time.
Cheers.
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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 11:31 am
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Excellent progress. I'm surprised we've never had the United States done before now.
Can't wait to see the finished article with her air wing.

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 7:26 pm
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There's a problem:
The reference drawing includes the 3" L/50 guns, so there was enough space
for the aft elevator to go up and down.
But now the elevator crashs on the roofs of the guns when he's going down,
'Cause the 3" L/70 guns are bigger!! So what can I do??
1st: I canot changed the length of the hull in the waterline,
2nd: I cannot changed the length of the flight deck &
3rd: I cannot changed the width of the aft elevator.
I have thought about it and I think I have a solution.
The German word therefor is "Schwalbennest".
I don't know the correct word in English. "Crows nest" or "swallows nest"??
Take a look at the Essex-Class and I think you know what I mean.
So I have to set miles of red lines and to have copy all the starboard views, port views and deck plans.
I hate it!!

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 9:20 pm
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Your word is "crow's nest"...and don't worry, we all have experienced such stumble blocks...I'm sure you with your proven skills will find a solution!

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 9:27 pm
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Thanks for your kind words.
"Crow's nest" - ok.
I'm ready with the starboard and port side.
Am working on the deck plans now and then I have to do the copy work.
Today or tomorrow comes the next upload.
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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 4th, 2012, 11:23 pm
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OK,, here it is:

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Post subject: Re: CV 58 - United StatesPosted: February 5th, 2012, 10:47 am
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Awesome work
Looking forward to see more US carriers (maybe the 1945-1946 never were project ?)


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