Here it is, Farragut in 1932
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| Author: | Shigure [ January 6th, 2017, 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | USA Farragut Class |
Here it is, Farragut in 1932
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| Author: | Hood [ January 6th, 2017, 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
Looks good, I'll leave it to others with more expert knowledge of USN ships and systems to comment on the details. The after funnel base looks a bit flat, perhaps add a bit more shading there? |
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| Author: | emperor_andreas [ January 6th, 2017, 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
VERY nice work! |
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| Author: | Garlicdesign [ January 6th, 2017, 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
Hi everyone! First of all, a style-wise very nice drawing, Looks excellent. But - and I really hate to be the bloke who spoils the party - a tad too long. According to Navypedia, which is a straightforward copy of Conway's for the most part, USS Farragut's length is 101.8m wl and 104.0m oa; Wikipedia also gives a length of 104m. Yours has a Loa in excess of 120m. As I said, sorry... Greetings GD |
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| Author: | Shigure [ January 6th, 2017, 4:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
Yeah I knew length was going to be an issue. I've known that Fletcher was the largest destroyer of it's time and there's no way Farragut was gonna be longer. I might've just scaled it wrong, spacing certain objects to far from each other, and therefor extending the length of the ship |
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| Author: | acelanceloet [ January 6th, 2017, 6:35 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class | |
Yeah I knew length was going to be an issue. I've known that Fletcher was the largest destroyer of it's time and there's no way Farragut was gonna be longer.
this begs the question, how exactly do you work when drawing an real world vessel? it sounds like you scale the ship from the parts, which is extremely hard to do and should only be done when you have no alternative whatsoever (and possibly not even then).I might've just scaled it wrong, spacing certain objects to far from each other, and therefor extending the length of the ship there are excellent sources for the general arrangement of these ships. I have not looked for actual builders plans, but there are quite a few sideviews on google image search. Friedman's us destroyers has an general arrangement drawing as well on page 82. might those not be an better option? |
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| Author: | Colosseum [ January 6th, 2017, 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
You can't take a drawing of the Fletcher and then rearrange it to become the Farragut - that's just not how drawing real life ships works. You need to start from scratch, preferably tracing over a properly-resized original line drawing. You clearly understand how the style works so now it's time to learn how to draw real ships when held to a scale standard. Most of the hard-to-draw stuff (small guns, radars, electronics, etc) has already been done for you. 
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| Author: | reytuerto [ January 6th, 2017, 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
Hi Colosseum. Yes, is very difficult. Even with the same class of ship (resizing a Fram Fletcher, and graft part by part to the hull in the correct SB scale ). Having a flushdeck destroyer as starting point for a vessel with a hull with forecastle is almost an impossible task (or at least, from my point of view, is easiar to begin everything from scratch). Cheers.
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| Author: | Colosseum [ January 6th, 2017, 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
There are only two ways to accurately draw a real life ship in Shipbucket format: 1. Resize an original and accurate line drawing of the ship and trace over it. 2. Plot the drawing by taking measurements from a set of plans (only advisable if you have access to large-scale builder's plans or high quality CAD drawings). No other method is acceptable. |
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| Author: | signal [ January 7th, 2017, 2:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA Farragut Class |
My question here is, if you do not have access to the original Naval architect drawings, whose drawings/dimensions do you use? Are the stats on NavSouce website accurate? Is Friedman always right? ( I assume he is because of his research and reputation ) - but I do not own any of his books, in part because of the cost. Several websites sell drawings that are apparently from the appropriate Navy designs - but, again, they can be expensive. How does one reproduce various ships accurately without spending hundreds of dollars on reference materials? |
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