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Some more old frenchmen. Again - I am quite sure I credited every part I took off another pic, and if I left someone out, please inform me.
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![[ img ]](http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y531/Garlicdesign/ships-2/BBDemocratie.png)
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| Author: | Garlicdesign [ December 30th, 2012, 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | French pre-dreadnoughts |
Hello there! Some more old frenchmen. Again - I am quite sure I credited every part I took off another pic, and if I left someone out, please inform me. Garlicdesign |
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| Author: | Redhorse [ December 31st, 2012, 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
Again, I like these very much. |
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| Author: | KHT [ December 31st, 2012, 1:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
I agree with Redhorse. Very well made drawings, scratchmade or not. |
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| Author: | klagldsf [ December 31st, 2012, 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
I just realized some of those guns have some ridiculously long calibers. Were the French really like that? Especially in an era known for slow-burning powder making long-caliber guns impractical. |
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| Author: | KimWerner [ December 31st, 2012, 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
Very beautiful drawings indeed  Though I like the shading on the hulls very much, I'm pretty sure they are against SB-standards 
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| Author: | eswube [ December 31st, 2012, 8:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
Impressive work! |
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| Author: | Hood [ December 31st, 2012, 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
An impressive collection of French pre-dreadnoughts. My comments re shading apply here too, yes its not standard but IMHO it works well to show the tumblehome hulls and its done well. The use of slightly darker grey around the hull ports and hatches might make them stand out better though. |
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| Author: | Navarchos [ December 31st, 2012, 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
Very Beautifull & amazing work!....well done!!! This is an add that we were waiting for a long time ... French ships of WWII and before are not so common topic in this Forum so everything is more than welcome! ....I will try to fix some Cruisers of WWII era |
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| Author: | Garlicdesign [ December 31st, 2012, 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
Hello again. Concerning the barrel lengths: The French used 45-caliber barrels (same caliber length as early dreadnaughts) for their heavy guns as early as 1983 (Jauréguiberry's forward main gun reached all the way to the stem, maybe I draw her at some point); these fired relatively lightweight shells. These were only mounted in single turrets, and very far forward in the turret so almost the entire barrel length was visible (as opposed to most foreign ships where much of the aft part of the barrel was hidden inside the turret). As soon as twin turrets came into general use, 40-caliber barrels were used. The secondaries on Démocratie and Quinet's guns were 194mm/45 caliber, a quite modern high-velocity gun; maybe it would have been better to draw the tubes one pixel wider, but I aesthetically dislike it when the barrels get too massive. Concerning the sources: the best sources (including underwater hulls, which I omitted because I could not get them for all ships and wanted an uniform style collection) can be found at www.3dhistory.de (complete construction plans detailed enough to rebuild the ship; for drawing, even the thumbs are detailed enough). Since it seems to be perfectly allowable to omit the underwater hull, I have no plans of adding it myself. Whoever feels like doing so, is hereby explicitly permitted to do it. Garlicdesign |
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| Author: | heuhen [ December 31st, 2012, 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: French pre-dreadnoughts |
We have an unwrited rule in SB that says: "If you have good reference of the hull, the you draw it." |
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