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Author:  Zephyr [ February 13th, 2012, 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  USS Atlanta
Thought I might try a 19th century ship, see if I could. So, I decided on the USS Atlanta, the 1st Cruiser of the US Navy. Two were built, the USS Atlanta and the USS Boston, the Boston also being the ship that fired the first shots of the Battle of Manila Bay. Oddly enough, they navy didn't start assigning hull numbers until their thrid cruiser, the USS Chicago, which became C1, the Atlanta and Boston never being assigned hull numbers.

So sharpen your cutlasses and ready your boarding pikes and tell me what I got wrong. In the unlikely event I got something right, please also maybe let me know that as well.

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Hopefully, I'll have one with the sails set in a day or two, but I wanted to wait until I got the kinks worked out of the "no sail" version first.

DIMENSIONS: Length - 283 Feet (86.26m) oa
Beam - 42 Feet (12.80m)
Draught - 17 Feet Mean (5.18m)
DISPLACEMENT: 3,189 tons
ARMAMENT: 2 x 8"/30 BLR, 6 x 6"/30, 2 x 6pdr, 4 gatlings
ARMOR: Belt - none; Protective Deck - 1 1/2 Inches, slope & flat
MACHINERY - Eight cyl boilers; One Shaft horizontal compound (HC) Engine 3,500ihp: Sail - 10,400 square feet
MAXIMUM SPEED - 13 knots under steam
COMPLEMENT - 19 Officers & 265 Ratings

(OK, show of hands... who among you read the title and thought this was about the WW2 AA Cruiser Atlanta?)
Author:  Thiel [ February 13th, 2012, 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
You've got some conflicting rigging, the spars looks like they're made out of four by fours and you're a tad too enthusiastic with the shading, but other than that nothing really springs to mind.
Stick to three shades rather than the five you're using now. The base colour, a dark and a light.
Author:  Zephyr [ February 13th, 2012, 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
Yeah, I was kinda at a loss as to how to do the shading on the "turtleback" look on the top deck. I just kinda winged it on that. LOL

The rigging, I just did my best to follow the old grainy pics I had, plus a couple models done of the Atlanta and Boston. The spars.... yeah, I did get a bit ... ummm ... enthusiastic with them. That needs to change. I also just noticed on a couple pictures it shows the masts as being three sections and not two. I'll have to work on the masts.
Author:  Novice [ February 13th, 2012, 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
Ah, very nice indeed. You might want to consult Norman Friedman's book on the design of USN cruisers. There is a line drawing of the ship by A.D Baker there. For the points made by Thiel, look at some of the ships of that period made by Darth Panda and others.
Author:  Zephyr [ February 14th, 2012, 5:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
Novice wrote:
Ah, very nice indeed. You might want to consult Norman Friedman's book on the design of USN cruisers. There is a line drawing of the ship by A.D Baker there.
Don't have that book in my collection, unfortunately. I do have a couple line drawings of the Boston and Atlanta, but I don't know who did them. That and as many pics as I could find doing image searches on the web.
Novice wrote:
For the points made by Thiel, look at some of the ships of that period made by Darth Panda and others.
Yup, thats what I was thinking as well.

Who knows, I may actually be able to make this thing bearable toi look at. ;)
Author:  emperor_andreas [ February 15th, 2012, 3:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
With all the WWII USN CAs and CLs being posted recently, thought this was one of them...in any event, nice work!

-Matt
Author:  erik_t [ February 15th, 2012, 4:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
The yardarms drawn fore-and-aft is incorrect. Traditionally, these are shown in this angled fore-and-aft view so as to indicate their presence and length. In the shipbucket standard, this usage is incorrect, and they should be shown port-and-starboard as they were mounted in reality.
Author:  Zephyr [ February 15th, 2012, 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
erik_t wrote:
The yardarms drawn fore-and-aft is incorrect. Traditionally, these are shown in this angled fore-and-aft view so as to indicate their presence and length. In the shipbucket standard, this usage is incorrect, and they should be shown port-and-starboard as they were mounted in reality.
I'm not sure what you mean.
Author:  Portsmouth Bill [ February 15th, 2012, 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
Its just that in 'real life' the masts and yardarms would not be seen as you've represented them, as the yardarms would be side on - like the rest of the ship. Erik is correct, in terms of Shipbucket; but, the majority of drawings here have been represented in that way. :)
Author:  Zephyr [ February 15th, 2012, 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: USS Atlanta
Yeah, I went through the archives before I started and looked at all the masted ships, and they all seemed to have their spars side view. Am I to be held to a seperate or unique standard?
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