Here are two of the most elegant liners: the SS Michelangelo and the SS Raffaello
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| Author: | Lazer_one [ January 15th, 2012, 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
Here are two of the most elegant liners: the SS Michelangelo and the SS Raffaello
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| Author: | WhyMe [ January 15th, 2012, 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
Oh, wow! Superb drawings, Lazer_one! The name on the bow is the only difference between the two ships? |
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| Author: | Lazer_one [ January 15th, 2012, 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
it should be a difference of about 1 meter between the two units (that I didn't drawn). Besid this difference no other is "officially" described. I crosschecked all the available picture and i seems so. Some drawings are also available but ... |
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| Author: | heuhen [ January 15th, 2012, 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
great work |
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| Author: | ALVAMA [ January 15th, 2012, 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
AWESOME! |
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| Author: | Chuck ship art [ January 15th, 2012, 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
Reallly nice |
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| Author: | bezobrazov [ January 15th, 2012, 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
Great work, Lazer. I have the two as models, and by cross referencing these with plans (yes, I did, myself, entertain drawing them! I guess I'll have to be satisfied with drawing the SS Oriana...) there are, besides the length issue certain deck layout differences and slightly different pool arrangements etc, things that are mostly very hard to actually represent correctly on a drawing like this. But, looking closer at both drawings, I have a few issues with them: They look far too 'boxy' to really match the sleek, elegant lines of the real ships. The forward superstructure is wholly wrong and doesn't agree with either photos or plans. The sponsoned-out superstructure (promenade-deck level) is not correctly featured, as there's no shading beneath, especially the forward section. Also the stabilizers are way, way too big.They did have twin pairs, for sure, but they were considerably smaller in size and set closer together; and, as far as I can tell from all my evidence, there were'nt any bilge keel fitted either. I know all this sounds like a terrible denounciation of your work, but it isn't. I really love these two, maybe the smartest, most elegant-looking of all the trans-Atlantic liners, so I'm only trying to make good be perfect! 
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| Author: | Lazer_one [ January 15th, 2012, 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello |
please Bezo send me details and hints to fix. I found only one drawing showing the stabilizer and I followed even if too big. |
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| Author: | klagldsf [ January 15th, 2012, 9:23 pm ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello | |
They look far too 'boxy' to really match the sleek, elegant lines of the real ships.
This is a frequent problem I've observed with a lot of FD-scale drawings, especially for aircraft. People don't take into effect how curved lines will result in different shading which is why even the Shipbucket drawing guide mentions it. Or they put too much faith into a presumably high-detail, high-accuracy drawing that often neglects this fact or just flubs the lines entirely and don't bother to cross-reference other sources, namely photographs.Cross-checking with photos should be the bare minimum people should do when drawing anything on here, of course assuming that any are available. Edited to address lazer_one's concerns. |
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| Author: | Lazer_one [ January 15th, 2012, 9:30 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello | ||
They look far too 'boxy' to really match the sleek, elegant lines of the real ships.
This is a frequent problem I've observed with a lot of FD-scale drawings, especially for aircraft. People don't take into effect how curved lines will result in different shading which is why even the Shipbucket drawing guide mentions it. Or they put too much faith into a presumably high-detail, high-accuracy drawing that often neglects this fact or just flubs the lines entirely and don't bother to cross-reference other sources, namely photographs.Cross-checking with photos should be the bare minimum you should do when drawing anything on here, of course assuming that any are available. |
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