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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemskerkPosted: May 10th, 2011, 11:03 pm
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I am currently working on the S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class frigates. I am using the blueprint of the ship wich i use for my 1/300 scale model.

This is still a WIP. But to get help during the event. And to make Acelanceloet(jantje :lol:) happy i already post it.
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Hr ms Kortenaer Class.png
-List to do-S:
-First version with 2x 76mm
-Second with goalkeeper on 2nd 76mm position
-Elli class
-UAE's S frigates
-UAE's APAR+Smart-l S frigates (Acelanceloet)

-List to do-L:
-First version NL
-Second version Chile
-Third version proposed conversion

Anybody has some good pics from on top of the hangar facing forward? Or PS/SB corners of hangar on the aft side?

What about the shaded prop? Is it ok? :roll:

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 10th, 2011, 11:27 pm
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You've probably seen this:
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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 7:03 am
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MitcheLL300 wrote:
Anybody has some good pics from on top of the hangar facing forward? Or PS/SB corners of hangar on the aft side? What about the shaded prop? Is it ok? :roll:
Ships ALREADY DRAW in SB catalog :roll:
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... er%201.gif
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... er%202.gif
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... er%203.gif
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... CK%201.gif
http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Re ... CK%202.gif

For hangar view's
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56 ... 961664.jpg
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56 ... 961664.jpg


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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 8:08 am
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very nice! is that LW-08 finished already? if so, I can put her on the sheet....
also, (haven't checked, just to be certain) have you used the latest NSSM launcher drawing?
also, we have to talk about the 'edge' of the hull, it could be drawn differently and IMO better looking with the new shading rules.

@ colombimike: it is hard to see, but this is no redraw but an update and redetail, to get it up to standards, just like the M-frigates and LCF have had. I will be doing the same for the GW frigates soon.

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Mitchell van Os
Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 11:07 am
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Colomabike, if you just tried out to see the difference, then it tells it own story as an answer to what you said.

And mine is based on the original blue print, and Mconrads approved doing this.
I will remain his credit in respect. I dont care about credits, just accurate drawings with my personal touch ;)

Thanks for the reference, helps a lot (i already got many, but most of them where from the ELLI, wich is longer, and a bit different.

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 2:47 pm
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I can see where you're going Mitch. I have, myself made a thorough upgrade on the Tromp, in all the class' shapes and appearances, for myself. Now, if Miho would consent, I could go ahead and post them here. BTW, I absolutely LOVE your prop! Exactly what I've been looking for and trying to create, without much success! Say, may I use it too??

Oh, and as a curiosity FYI: I made two AU-versions, one of the de Ruyter (then renamed Eendracht) with APAR etc, and one of Tromp if sold to Chile (as the Heemskercks were), then renamed CNS Covadonga.

Oh, and I did an edit on the existing Standard frigate with (as usual for me!) both starbord and port elevation. I can send it to you, if you think it'd help you! Free of charge! ;) :lol:

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 2:51 pm
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you made an tromp? when? where? what!
that one is mine!

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 3:03 pm
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The propellor shows exactly what shipbucket is NOT about ;) Please do not use it. Atleast the shading in it.(the shape of it is however kinda good) Remember this whole style is basicly about using just one shade at the time... never go using multible shading or stepped shading effect.

I would love to also see the Tromp thought. You don't have to submit to uploading if MihoshiK doesen't aprove. (an exclusive PM peak to make the plebeis envy would also suffice :P )

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 3:13 pm
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ace...calm down...I upgraded for my own personal use and pleasure Miho's TRomp. I've not even considered posting it here. It was only Mitch's recent project that brought it to my attention. Don't worry. I won't show it to anyone. You can have the Tromp for all I care, but be prepared for scrutiny when finished, since I've studied that class quite exhaustively! - But, I think I'm allowed to do whatever, regardless of worklists, on my own computer; there you've got no business...

And, oh, btw, sorry that I ever mentioned it! Will not repeat that!

And Golly, I'd be happy to try to PM it to you...though I'm about to use Mitch fancy-schmancy looking prop! :D And, thanks for your positive response! That's what SB ought to be about - sharing and caring! ;)

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Post subject: Re: S/Standaart-Kortenaer Class/L/Air defence-Jacob vanheemsPosted: May 11th, 2011, 3:19 pm
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bezobrazov, no problem if you don't post it. and if you made it a long time ago, you can post it. if it is recent though, could you send it to me by PM, as I might be able to use some parts..... and I just have to say, I was mad at you because I am halfway quite an thorough research as well ;) for doing that ship. (I will start on it in a few weeks)

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