Shipbucket
http://67.205.157.234/forums/

HMS Howe
http://67.205.157.234/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3836		 Page 7 of 8
Author:  Charybdis [ January 12th, 2013, 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Excellent work, Kim. The camo is very fetching! :)
Author:  KimWerner [ January 12th, 2013, 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
If no one have objections I consider all three versions for done :D
Author:  Colombamike [ January 12th, 2013, 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Ops, several errors found :?
KimWerner wrote:
As build:
[ img ]
The radar-jammer box (in the stern) is unavailable by 1942 (only by mid/late 1943) !!!
KimWerner wrote:
First refit:
[ img ]
KimWerner wrote:
Second refit:
[ img ]
Your 1946 version likely lack some 40mm bofor mount (at least two quadruple and many single bofor...)

Weapons added
March 1943
22 x single 20mm added

December 1943 – May 1944
6 x single 20mm removed, 2 x 4-barreled 40mm added, 2 x 8-barreled 2-pdr pom-pom added, 4 x twin 20mm added, aircraft facilities removed removed, Type 274, 282 and 283 radar added and Type 273, 281 and 284 radar removed

29 June – September 1945
34 x single 20mm removed, 6 x 4-barreled 2-pdr added and 18 x single 40mm added

Late 1945
6 x single 40mm removed

21 January – 14 March 1946
6 x 4-barreled 2-pdr added, 8 x single 40mm removed

May 1948 – June 1949
2 x 4-barreled 40mm removed

:ugeek:
Author:  meyer [ January 13th, 2013, 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
at the 1944 version (and perhaps the 1946 one) you still have to add the american quadruple 40mm Bofors mounting on the superstructure abreast the after mast
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 13th, 2013, 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Colombamike wrote:
Ops, several errors found :?
-SNIP-
Your 1946 version likely lack some 40mm bofor mount (at least two quadruple and many single bofor...)

Weapons added
March 1943
22 x single 20mm added

December 1943 – May 1944
6 x single 20mm removed, 2 x 4-barreled 40mm added, 2 x 8-barreled 2-pdr pom-pom added, 4 x twin 20mm added, aircraft facilities removed removed, Type 274, 282 and 283 radar added and Type 273, 281 and 284 radar removed

29 June – September 1945
34 x single 20mm removed, 6 x 4-barreled 2-pdr added and 18 x single 40mm added

Late 1945
6 x single 40mm removed

21 January – 14 March 1946
6 x 4-barreled 2-pdr added, 8 x single 40mm removed

May 1948 – June 1949
2 x 4-barreled 40mm removed

:ugeek:
You're too much of a geek for your own good: If you really wanted to help him, you'd SHOW him where those guns are supposed to go. Now you're just being a smartass. Unlesss you can actually be constructive, AND polite, maybe you should pipe down a bit.
Author:  KimWerner [ January 13th, 2013, 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Regarding the jammer I was in doubt, because it wasn't on the seatrials photos, but it appeared on pics which were dificult to date precisely 1942 or 1943. But it is now removed.
Regarding all the other weapons it was a very difficult task. The weapons info I've already got, but comparing to pictures it was impossible to get the amounts of weapon to fit. To example the US quad IS mounted on the 1946 edition (aft mast), but I couldn't find 1944 pics where it was shown :( I realize that the armament possibly isn't 100% represented, but I've choose to show what could be seeing on pics rather to guess something up. I've got a lot blueprints like drawings, but they also differ from each other. A last thing; it also a question of balancing to draw correct without the drawing being to cramped ;)
Author:  Colombamike [ January 13th, 2013, 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
MihoshiK wrote:
You're too much of a geek for your own good: If you really wanted to help him, you'd SHOW him where those guns are supposed to go. Now you're just being a smartass. Unlesss you can actually be constructive, AND polite, maybe you should pipe down a bit.
I do not care about your infamous criticism
Continue to draw your imaginary ships


Kim
[ img ]
[ img ]
[ img ]
Author:  Colosseum [ January 13th, 2013, 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Quote:
I do not care about your infamous criticism
Continue to draw your imaginary ships
Is this really necessary???
Author:  Colombamike [ January 13th, 2013, 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Colosseum wrote:
Is this really necessary???
In fact not (it is true that this is a can "exaggerate")
I just do not like it to use his position as moderator, while my criticism (drawing comments) is basically...TRUE
I am always amazed on shipbucket to see some guys trying to draw ships...without really know them...
Author:  MihoshiK [ January 13th, 2013, 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HMS Howe
Colombamike wrote:
MihoshiK wrote:
You're too much of a geek for your own good: If you really wanted to help him, you'd SHOW him where those guns are supposed to go. Now you're just being a smartass. Unlesss you can actually be constructive, AND polite, maybe you should pipe down a bit.
I do not care about your infamous criticism
Continue to draw your imaginary ships
-SNIP-
See, you CAN be useful.
Quote:
In fact not (it is true that this is a can "exaggerate")
I just do not like it to use his position as moderator, while my criticism (drawing comments) is basically...TRUE
I am always amazed on shipbucket to see some guys trying to draw ships...without really know them...
Your critisism is both true, and annoying, because you weren't actually being HELPFUL. You just wanted to look better.

Also, did you think I told you off simply because you were being a smartass in this thread, or might it have been that we've actually recieved complaints about your behavior?

If I were you I'd think carefully about that.
Page 7 of 8 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited
https://www.phpbb.com/